Author Topic: Are We Headed For Another Housing Crash ??  (Read 18314 times)

Timothy

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Re: Are We Headed For Another Housing Crash ??
« Reply #20 on: October 15, 2015, 05:14:06 PM »
I'm focusing on the local state and the US Congressional races.  I'll vote, always do but Clinton or Sanders will win MA.  I'll vote for my dead dog over either..

It's reprehensible what the media is doing to control the conversation and these asshats here and across the nation are falling for it...  Young people are frothing at the mouth for Bernie..

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Re: Are We Headed For Another Housing Crash ??
« Reply #21 on: October 15, 2015, 05:16:10 PM »
...............Young people are frothing at the mouth for Bernie.

This country has never in it's history been consumed by such a large, young, stupid electorate.

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Re: Are We Headed For Another Housing Crash ??
« Reply #22 on: October 16, 2015, 05:57:06 AM »
I guess you forget the 60's.  When the communists began their take over.

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« Reply #23 on: October 16, 2015, 03:51:53 PM »
I'm going to throw this out there, just because I always get crucified for saying it, but I do not believe in universal suffrage. No, not everyone deserves, or even should be voting. When the Constitution was written only landowners could vote. This was to ensure that the people making the decisions had a stake in the outcome.

Another thing that I rail about is the 17th Amendment. The whole point of separating the houses of congress was so that the people had a voice, and so did the states. As soon as we started electing Senators instead of them being accountable to state legislatures we started going down hill.

These 2 changes to our Constitution have been a huge factor in the downfall of our nation. 
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Re: Are We Headed For Another Housing Crash ??
« Reply #24 on: October 16, 2015, 04:18:36 PM »
No, not everyone deserves, or even should be voting. When the Constitution was written only landowners could vote. This was to ensure that the people making the decisions had a stake in the outcome.

This I agree with. The most dangerous thing to this country is an uninformed voter, who is allowed to vote themselves a paycheck drawn from someone else's pocket.

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« Reply #25 on: October 16, 2015, 08:40:59 PM »
I agree with Bill. The people on benefits will always vote to get more while the people who provide all the money for those benefits have less and less say about it.
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Re: Are We Headed For Another Housing Crash ??
« Reply #26 on: October 17, 2015, 06:22:13 AM »
JC isn't going to get any flack from me about "property requirement" for voting.  Most of the former colonies not only reinstated it after the revolution, but increased the limit from L50 to L100 .
How ever, that was the primary cause of Shay's rebellion in Mass, so do not consider it unless you are prepared to machine gun the lower classes to enforce it.
Along with changing the Senate from appointed to elected another thing I have thought about is the Women's vote. I haven't come to any definite opinion but I notice that before women were allowed to vote debates were focused insights, and idea's based on thought, look at the debates on slavery, or the gold/ silver standard. We also elected men who while physically unattractive were thoughtful and intelligent.
Since then we have had a series of "handsome" nonentities except for FDR, who was supposed to be an extremely charming guy. And our debates have become less focused on the reality of facts and more geared toward, emotion and what's "fair".
The Constitution was never intended to be "fair" it was intended to be workable while screwing the smallest number of people.
 One thing I agree with the liberals about, we need to toss the old Constitution and rewrite it to remove all wiggle room. For 3 things, it needs to include specific penalties for violations by politicians instead of the current ethics process which is a joke, you have people like Charlie Rangel who have spent more tome in there than some of the members with no consequences, corrupt politicians should be either executed immediately, or immediately removed and forbidden from ever holding any position of trust, no professorships, no board of directorships, not even dog catcher.
Secondly, some one needs to be specified as being responsible for enforcing the Constitution and given the muscle, and independence to make it stick, I don't know how you would change the selection process to make it work, but the general idea would be that all laws and policies are reviewed by SCOTUS before being implemented, and if a President or Congress tried to defy them give them the authority to use the Army to remove the offenders.
Third, No more Bill of Rights, instead, put in place a "Bill of responsibilities", for example, you must be able to support what you say and print with verifiable facts, (that would eliminate global warming, gun control, and most other liberal BS) the obligation of the citizens to keep and bear arms, and so on.

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Re: Are We Headed For Another Housing Crash ??
« Reply #27 on: October 17, 2015, 07:58:07 AM »
....When the Constitution was written only landowners could vote. This was to ensure that the people making the decisions had a stake in the outcome.

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This country has never in it's history been consumed by such a large, young, stupid electorate.

One draw back to the Fair Tax (Linder/Boortz) is that it would be collected at the manufacturing point, insulating the consumer directly from the pain.  Income tax has perhaps only one positive and that is it makes you painfully aware of at least some of the cost of government.   

So many voters have no concept of the cost of government.   And "government" likes it that way.  The more taxes collected before the POS, the more "it" can suck out of the economy without the majority of the electorate complaining.
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Re: Are We Headed For Another Housing Crash ??
« Reply #28 on: October 17, 2015, 08:26:11 AM »
A big help would be adding a Constitutional Amendment that would prevent the Federal government from borrowing any money....... Except in a time of war or natural disaster. But it would never pass because even the idiot liberals know it would eventually end their gravy train.

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Re: Are We Headed For Another Housing Crash ??
« Reply #29 on: October 17, 2015, 08:27:21 AM »
As written in the Constitution the only way taxation is legal is to take the amount the Gov't requires and divide it by the number of tax payers.
Of course there is also the insane concept of charging each tax payer a set amount and then operating with in the damned budget.

 

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