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Rob10ring

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Re: Obama scoffs the Bible
« Reply #60 on: August 30, 2008, 03:08:52 PM »
I won't ever disagree with the absolute clusterf*** the ATF and other agencies handled the Branch Davidians. The situation went from bad to worse to catastrophic thanks to a inept Justice Dept.

BUT Koresh raised red flags all over town which of course escalated interest by the feds.

Interesting link to the whole series of events. http://www.trutv.com/library/crime/notorious_murders/not_guilty/koresh/1.html

Small excerpt from the article;

Known as the Mount Carmel Center, the place was occupied by members of an apocalyptic religious group that was led by a man named David Koresh.  Rumored to be stockpiled inside was an arsenal of explosives and weapons, some of which reportedly had been illegally converted to rapid-fire automatic.

That put them under the ATF's jurisdiction.  A UPS driver had tipped off the government when a package bound for Mount Carmel had broken open to reveal casings for hand grenades.  While the group did earn money from gun sales and were legally allowed to trade in arms, it appeared that they weren't following protocol.  Some neighbors also reported a lot of target practice.

But there was more, too, which came out in the days ahead.  Linedecker claims that the local newspaper was running a series of articles about Koresh's dubious activities, entitled "The Sinful Messiah," based on accounts by defectors like Marc Breault, who later authored Inside the Cult.  Breault had hired detectives to snoop around and when contacted by the ATF, he supplied a number of detailed descriptions of his former associates.  He denounced Koresh, speaking of child abuse and polygamy.

Back to the premise of the this threads new direction, the Davidians right or wrong, drew attention to themselves, and raised the ire of an awful Janet Reno led DOJ.


I don't think I ever heard the whole story on this before. What a big mess. Kind of like the Randy Weaver thing at Ruby Ridge where something small turned into Americans getting killed.

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Re: Obama scoffs the Bible
« Reply #61 on: August 30, 2008, 04:08:31 PM »
I don't think I ever heard the whole story on this before. What a big mess. Kind of like the Randy Weaver thing at Ruby Ridge where something small turned into Americans getting killed - by their own gummint!!!!

Update: The documentary you want is "Waco: The Rules of Engagement" (1997) a very balanced review of the situation and the government's outrageous behavior. Most chilling is the FBI (?) agent making sure there was plenty of blank VHS tapes to record her "success".
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