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[DesertMarine]

Your point is well taken...women should get the whole picture and hopefully they do. I'm no medical expert, but I do know that at one time they were telling us cigarettes were ok, and they were giving pregnant women thalidimide, so what gets published isn't always good stuff. And maybe I jumped runstowin too hard on that- I got confused. It seems to be happening more and more lately...

I have a bit of a personal aversion to zealots (not to insinuate that any of us here are such). When I hear a hint of one of those arguments about black-white, no inbetween I sometimes go off. I can't understand the whole concept that one shouldn't use contraceptives or shouldn't consider abortion under dark circumstances, yet we can let kids be born into horrible circumstances and pretty much let them wallow in it 'till their old enough to commit a serous crime then we can lock them up. That seems to be the SOP.

On the other hand, one of my daughters is in very early pregnancy and the sonogram picture looks just like me except that I have a goatee. I'd hate to think someone would short circuit a handsome devil like that.

Agree with you.  Have you gotten the baby's guns and guitar yet?

[jaybet]

Agree with you.  Have you gotten the baby's guns and guitar yet?

I sent my daughter that picture someone had posted here with the baby-in-womb with AR...she loved that. The kid can have one of my guitars...hopefully I'll  have to go out and buy more of them so each grandkid can have one.

[DesertMarine]

Need to make sure you have enough for everyone. 

[DDMac]

"I have a bit of a personal aversion to zealots (not to insinuate that any of us here are such). " JB.

I dunno Jay. Remember what Barry Goldwater taught us.

"Extremism-in defence of Liberty, is NO VICE!"

Mac.

[jaybet]

Good point. I guess I was talking about zealots on particular subjects like abortion or religion or Ford vs. Chevy, Glock vs. 1911....that kind of thing. Liberty is all you've got 'till it's gone, then you've got nothin'.

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[DesertMarine]

Every person has issues that are hot-button issues.  Mine happen to be abortion and illegal immigration.  Though I look at illegal immigration differently than a lot of people that contribute to these forums and that is ok.  I have seen several hot issues with different viewpoint expressed but none where a person is attacked personally.  I love good discussions, not agruments and that is why I like this site.

[PegLeg45]

Every person has issues that are hot-button issues.  Mine happen to be abortion and illegal immigration.  Though I look at illegal immigration differently than a lot of people that contribute to these forums and that is ok.  I have seen several hot issues with different viewpoint expressed but none where a person is attacked personally.  I love good discussions, not agruments and that is why I like this site.

A big +1.
This is not directed at anyone...just me rambling on while it's on my mind after reading some replies.

I'm not the type of person to try to force my views and opinions on others. They are mine and I have the right to them just like everyone else. And I try to listen to what everyone has to say equally too. And I try to do so with respect, but we all slip sometimes...it goes with being humans.
I'm not going to try to make anyone take a bite of my sandwich if they ain't hungry.....but I expect the same from them.....which is why I hang out here, everyone gets along.
Yes, too, the discussions can heat up quickly on some topics. Especially when some issues are seen in 'black-and-white' or 'cut-and-dry' points of view. And, there's nothing wrong with that as long as folks stay to the point and stay civil.
I wish more issues were an 'either-or' decision, but more and more issues are developing 'gray areas' these days, whether I like it or not.
Sometimes it seems like the ONLY sure thing is that some day I'll have to pay up, and answer to the Lord for what I've done with my life, good and bad.
Thanks for letting me drivel on........I like this place..