what should i git a glock or 1911

[tumblebug]

 BOTH 1911 safe queen ,GLOCK potential evidence locker .

[tombogan03884]

The only difference between the 2 that would REALLY matter is trigger, SA 1911/DA Glock.

[Superheat]

Thanks for all the civil discourse.  Its nice to have a conversation about two wonderful pistols.  I know this is Michael Banes forum and I guess everyone might lean his way on the 1911 issue.  When John Moses Browning designed the 1911 he must have had divine intervention.  In the '80s Glock raised the bar from the status quo.  I believe BOTH are wonderful guns. The fact that a gun design that is coming upon its 100th year birthday is utterly amazing.  And rightfully so that the topic is only these two guns.  They are the cream of the crop.  All guns are mechanical devices and subject to failure.  That being said. The plusses of the glock must be at least acknowledged.  1. simplicity, if someone has never shot a handgun they can be proficient very quickly. K.I.S.S. magizine, slide, trigger.  2. Reliability, If you have a 1911 that is reliable, GREAT.  If you took 5 new Glock's and 5 random new 1911s and just tested them for reliability I would bet a lot of money one of those 1911's will puke within a 1000 rounds and some will be flawless.  The glocks will run and run.  3. If you need parts they are interchangeable.  A lot of 1911's are hand fit.  Sift through 50 parts to find one that fits correctly.  I doubt the average shooter has that ability.  I will buy another 1911 but It will take some convincing for me to carry one.

[twyacht]

Thank you Superheat, its always nice to have someone jump in with both feet and stand up for their personal opinion on a firearm to be discussed and debated on IMHO the best forum to do so.

That being said, the Michael Bane reference to a slighted 1911 preference shows your lack of awareness to the diversity of this forum. Respectfully, MB has previously posted on a number of caliber platforms that are suitable for the application of the owner, and an endorsement of many other than the 1911.

After all its the owner that buys (with hard earned money), the caliber and pistol that suits them best.

I own a Kel-Tec P3AT in .380 to a S&W .460 XVR. with many in between. All suit the application they are designed for. Concealed carry, target, comp, etc,....

Again, Glocks have a no holds barred rep for simplicity, form and reliability. The 1911 has been around much longer, with torture tests that have been tried and tried again before Glocks were even on a design table.

Yes, certain brands dropped the ball. Just like other name brand manufacturers who did as well.

Glocks had "blow ups" previously posted on this forum at length, don't get too caught up in the hype..

Thanks again for your input, don't bash a platform that "SET" the status quo that others follow to this day.

[MikeBjerum]

I picked up  a thought from twyacht.  This comparison is between a Glock (a specific "tupperware" gun - no insult intended) vs. a generic 1911.  Since Glock became popular many companies have jumped on board with their own variations of this gun.  There are 1911's that are reliable masterpieces second to none, and there are 1911's that are a waste of the scrap metal that was recycled to make them.

I would prefer a comparison of a Glock to a certain quality level of 1911's produced.  Or a comparison of the design and function of the poly gun to the 1911 design.

Maybe I'm headed the wrong direction here, but I have been exposed to just as many different 1911's (caliber, quality, finish, etc.) as I have poly guns.

Myself, I shoot a couple different 1911's, a 2011, Springfield XD, Baretta 9000, and have owned a couple other polies, and shot a couple of S&W M&P's.  Most have all been very good guns, but the poly guns have all driven me nuts trying to find the thumb safety.  My mind just likes that item.  Not that the others aren't safe or good, but different, and every poly gun I have shot had that flaw (as I call it because it is an item I feel most comfortable shooting).

Bottom line - Buy what you feel most comfortable with, because my fetish for thumb safeties might be a pet peeve of yours.

[Sponsor]

[Superheat]

Well said m58.  Buy what suits you best, there all good.  Know your gun.  Insult taken, polymer gun would be more accurate.  I guess if the topic was a specific 1911 it would be easier to quantify.  like a kimber custom vs. a glock 21. 

[TAB]

Well said m58.  Buy what suits you best, there all good.  Know your gun.  Insult taken, polymer gun would be more accurate.  I guess if the topic was a specific 1911 it would be easier to quantify.  like a kimber custom vs. a glock 21. 

want to explain that statement?   

[Rastus]

.....put yellow nail polish on the front sight, total investment not counting Ammo, 376.95. Rock Island rocks 

I'll be looking for Rock Island at the Wannamacher's Gun Show in Tulsa this November.  It was a really good deal, eh Tom?  MB mentioned them and spoke highly of them in a podcast. 

If everything goes bad on November 4th, the show is on the 8th and 9th and I'll be hocking something to put back 2 or 3 of them for the long winter.

[Big Frank]

If Glock is the best plastic-frame pistol, and you compare it to the worst 1911 made, then Glock is better. If you compare the best 1911 made to the worst plastic-framed pistol, the 1911 is better. If you compare the best of each, they're both good.

I personally haven't had a really bad 1911, but 1 out of 6 did need some work, which was free of charge with free return shipping. And I don't own any plastic-frame pistols, yet. But on the forum where people own all makes and models of pistols, the ones that I hear all the complaints about are plastic-framed. That doesn't mean all plastic-framed pistols are bad, and one 1911 not measuring up doesn't make all of them bad either.

[Landor]

I am a firm believer of shoot compilations with what you carry. It is excellent training with your carry gun. If you do not carry or  just want to win then you can build up any gun. I would suggest you go to a few compilations and check out what others are using and having problems with to give you some ideas.