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Which would you vote for as the ultimate fighting handgun?

Glock
23 (32.4%)
1911
48 (67.6%)

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Author Topic: Poll - Ultimate Fighting Handgun ----> Glock vs 1911  (Read 44259 times)

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Re: Poll - Ultimate Fighting Handgun ----> Glock vs 1911
« Reply #10 on: August 27, 2008, 05:33:07 PM »
I love 1911's, but when the SHTF, I'll be carrying at least one Glock. 10mm, .45, or at least .40. I'll take my SP101 in .357 too.

When cockroaches are all that's left to rule the Earth, they'll be carrying Glocks.

It is pretty amazing to see the renaissance that the 1911 and the snubby revolver are having right now.

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Re: Poll - Ultimate Fighting Handgun ----> Glock vs 1911
« Reply #11 on: August 27, 2008, 10:23:42 PM »
I love 1911's, but when the SHTF, I'll be carrying at least one Glock. 10mm, .45, or at least .40. I'll take my SP101 in .357 too.

When cockroaches are all that's left to rule the Earth, they'll be carrying Glocks.

It is pretty amazing to see the renaissance that the 1911 and the snubby revolver are having right now.


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Re: Poll - Ultimate Fighting Handgun ----> Glock vs 1911
« Reply #12 on: August 27, 2008, 10:42:11 PM »
It is pretty amazing to see the renaissance that the 1911 and the snubby revolver are having right now.

What's amazing to me is that some people actually think that 1911's and snubbie revolvers ever went out of favor,
and now somehow need to be "rediscovered".
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Re: Poll - Ultimate Fighting Handgun ----> Glock vs 1911
« Reply #13 on: August 28, 2008, 12:32:19 AM »
What's amazing to me is that some people actually think that 1911's and snubbie revolvers ever went out of favor,
and now somehow need to be "rediscovered".
I think gun magazines just rediscovered them. There was 12 or 15 years where everything was wonder-9s.

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Re: Poll - Ultimate Fighting Handgun ----> Glock vs 1911
« Reply #14 on: August 28, 2008, 12:38:17 AM »
1911.  Because you can't beat a bad guy with combat tupperware if you run out of ammo.
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Re: Poll - Ultimate Fighting Handgun ----> Glock vs 1911
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Re: Poll - Ultimate Fighting Handgun ----> Glock vs 1911
« Reply #15 on: August 28, 2008, 02:39:28 AM »
I voted for the 1911.  I carry a lightly modified Colt LW Officers ACP but if I expected more trouble I wouldn't hesitate to carry a Para P14.

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I used to have a Colt until I switched to a P14, actually a 13+1 frame I bought before Para made complete guns. It's had thousands of rounds through it and still works fine, but it's so badly worn that it rattles like a maraca if I shake it. A steel frame wouldn't wear that bad. I'm going to have the slide and frame tightened up and it will be ready for another 20 years. I have a few mags with extended baseplates so they're all 15 rounds but are the same length as an 8-round single column mag with a bumper on it. 7 extra rounds can be quite an advantage in a fighting pistol. And I don't have one for fighting, one for hunting, one for plinking, and one for serious target practice. I've used one pistol for everything and that's why after 20 years it has so much wear. But I also know that I can count on it. My newest .45 I'm not so sure about because it's not even broke in yet.
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Re: Poll - Ultimate Fighting Handgun ----> Glock vs 1911
« Reply #16 on: August 28, 2008, 02:42:14 AM »
Could be wrong, but the military testing on the 1911 "back in the day" was pretty brutal. Sand, mud, immersion, heat, cold, I can't remember where I read or saw it, but it just didn't end up in active service without some field testing.

Brutal is the right word for it. It was torture tested quite severely and passed. That's why it took so many years to find a pistol tough enough to replace it.
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Re: Poll - Ultimate Fighting Handgun ----> Glock vs 1911
« Reply #17 on: August 28, 2008, 08:48:53 AM »
1911.  Because you can't beat a bad guy with combat tupperware if you run out of ammo.

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Re: Poll - Ultimate Fighting Handgun ----> Glock vs 1911
« Reply #18 on: August 28, 2008, 10:53:21 AM »
I voted Glock of course as I stated before I how I feel about it in a fighting application.

I was wondering does anyone feel that the votes could be affected by age. I am not saying every vote is affected by this, there are exceptions to every rule. But if you are older, say over 40 maybe even 50, are you more bias towards the 1911 cause that is what you have shot for longer, and maybe that is what you grew up with hearing about its superiority.

Just as I have grown up with Glocks being the top dog. I am 26 and since I have been old enough to understand what a fighting gun is, or  what a gun that LE or professionals choose has been Glock. Every polymer gun has been compared to or tried to compete with the Glock and since Polymer has been the new thing that has taken handguns into the 21st century am I more conditioned to choose the Glock as the ultimate fighting handgun.    Just as my father's generation has been exposed to the 1911 or even the .357 revolver.

Just a thought, but do you think maybe I am on to something here? Is this maybe why Glock and 1911 seem to be always going head to head. My generation, and guys alittle older than me, have really just been able to get into the gun community and defensive handgun world, do to the age you must be to own a handgun. In another 20 years will there be another gun that goes up against these two. And those will be popular cause the kids growing up now are being exposed to it. Like maybe the FNP series or Sig 220's or XD's. I know those are all popular now but maybe something new will be the the big gun to compare to Glocks and 1911's in the future.
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Re: Poll - Ultimate Fighting Handgun ----> Glock vs 1911
« Reply #19 on: August 28, 2008, 11:18:27 AM »
Age may indeed affect some people's choices. Familiarity would be a big factor too. Many of us were in the military where 1911s ruled for 75 years and when the old warhorse finally was replaced, it still wasn't by anything with a polymer frame. As for Glock being the choice of LEOs, I was under the impression that most carry whatever they're issued. Maybe that carries over into their personal life and they just buy what they're already familiar with. Departments that have to buy 100s of firearms need to save money when they can, and when the polymer-framed pistols first came out they were significantly cheaper than metal-framed pistols. If the price of oil gets too high, maybe the expensive plastic will be replaced by metal. It would be interesting to see what civilians choose if the police quit using plastic and switch back to metal-frames.
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