Some people...

[MikeBjerum]

So you have no problem with that person in a wheelchair in your business, but you will deny me?

[TAB]

yes, because the wheel chair is needed for mobility, a gun is not. 

you know better, that's a straw man and you know it.

[tombogan03884]

I don't want gays or transgenders in my business because they increase the chances that some one will be inured in a cat fight, or sex assault in the mixed bathroom.
(There's the liability risk for TAB)
Now let's see what happens if you put up a "Gay free Zone" sign.

[MikeBjerum]

I jumped down this rabbit hole, because it is fun to expose TAB for the anti-gunner he is.  Freedom isn't free, and it is not just our current and veteran military that fights for freedom.  Each of us must take the bull by the horns and protect what we have been given and our Founding Fathers attempted to protect.  TAB is an example of the weenies who will trade these freedoms for something else, and they are the greatest danger to our great nation in the long run.

TAB, your comment about wheelchairs and mobility is the exact same as those who compare guns to cars.  They claim that cars serve a purpose in our daily survival and are a necessary part of life.  They go on to the long list of regulations and requirements for owning and operating vehicles, and insist we must have the same and more for the gun, which is not needed for daily survival in our society.

[tombogan03884]

I'll give TAB  the benefit of being an example of conditioning.
Due to a life time of suggestion he doesn't see that his opinion is wrong and can't process the arguments against it.

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[Timothy]

TAB should put more effort into reducing or fighting the regulation on liability to a business owner with his millions rather than bow to the industry that created those regulations, Congress!

As far as shooting toilets, there must be a whole lotta stupid people on the west coast...

[tombogan03884]

It's in proportion to population.
My Drill Instructor used to say that " 10% never get the word" never found a reason to disagree with that proportion. Except thinking it's low.

[billt]

This nation, along with it's off the chart political correctness, has become obsessed with, "becoming liable". No other nation on Earth is as over insured as this one is. It's why 2/3rds of the nations cash is controlled by insurance companies. They sell an invisible "commodity". Liberalism, along with an obsession for lawyers and insurance is the reason why. This thread proves it.

It reminds me of the end of "Rocky 5", when Stallone was going to punch out the black guy's lights. He recoils, and immediately shouts... "I'll sue!!" To a liberal, a CCW consists of a lawyers business card.

[MikeBjerum]

With my last few jobs I have had too much time to watch tv and listen to the radio at different times during the day.  The ads for class action lawsuits and settlement dollars are disgusting.  One of the worst I have heard lately is for cash settlement for people who received cancer treatment, and the chemo that saved them caused them to not only lose their hair but to remain bald or with thin hair.

I had surgery to remove my gallbladder several years ago.  The surgeon was well regarded by many surgeons in our area.  I even asked my doctor/surgeon if he would do the surgery, and he told me the other guy was far better.  Before you go in you sign the standard forms that explain the possible complications and risks.  A few years later I read that this surgeon it both under investigation by the state board and involved with lawsuits concerning three deaths.  All three deaths were caused by normal possible complications and incidents associated with the process.  Two were patients over 85, and the other in their 50's.  As I read the information this surgeon was far under the national average for these complications, and he performed hundreds of these procedures per year.  End result was that the surgeon had his fingers slapped, no fine, a 90 day suspension, and put on a log system similar to truckers - He had a conversion van, and he would sleep while his wife, an RN, would drive him hospital to hospital to operate - State said no more of this.  Twelve local small town hospitals dropped him as their primary surgeon.  Not because he wasn't good or was careless, but because they all feared lawsuits.  Since then you can't get an independent surgeon to come to town, you need to deal with corporate consolidating hospitals for surgeons, and often need to get on a waiting list and travel over 100 miles for a procedure.

TAB is an anti-gun, anti-freedom paranoid lemming and walking example of our population.

[billt]

Ever notice how when you see a ad on TV about a drug, it's NEVER coming from a medical group or clinic. ALWAYS from a legal group trying to make a fast buck on a, "class action" settlement. Nothing gets's the attention of the Lemming's faster than, "You may be entitled to financial compensation". If you want to improve medical care and cost in this country, do as Shakespeare once suggested.... Kill all of the lawyers.