Hurricane Katina Horror

[runstowin]

If this video doesn't make your blood boil you are comatose.    http://www.brasschecktv.com/page/417.html

[DDMac]

Within mere days the nation will see what lessons were learned from Katrina, or not.
How 'bout this? High ground=good, below sea level=bad. Why set the stage all over again?
Mac.

[PegLeg45]

Well, they've been warned several days in advance (again) that a hurricane (Gustav) is possibly heading towards New Orleans.
Let's see how many stand around this time with their thumbs up their butts waiting on someone else to tell them what to do.
I know, let's wait till we neck deep and then try to figure out where to go.........

That being said, I pray for the safety of everyone involved on the gulf coast.

They are already raising gas by .20 overnight here in Ga in greedy anticipation.

[brosometal]

That site was a hoot!  I especially like how it points to other sections of its self a reference.  I need to go back to school and write some research papers using that technique.  Ignorance and misinformation abound.  Just one question for the folks:  What is the responsibility of taxpayers in Montana, Washington, Alaska et. al. to pay for people who did not evacuate a city that actually sits below sea level?  Could you please point to the part of our constitution that provides for that?  There is a crude saying that intimates that defecation rolls downhill.  The next time you hear that you can holler, "Bulldefecation!" and point to the Katrina whiners.  Apparently in that example the poop was punted up hill and cleared both the local and state officials and landed right in the middle of the federal government (read you and me's) soup bowl.  Another thing I thought was amusing was the last whiner.  He was really worked up about Blackwater.  The only mistake there was they were deployed to the wrong place.  Ask the crime statistician in any place that took in New Orleans refugees.

[runstowin]

That site was a hoot!  I especially like how it points to other sections of its self a reference.  I need to go back to school and write some research papers using that technique.  Ignorance and misinformation abound.  Just one question for the folks:  What is the responsibility of taxpayers in Montana, Washington, Alaska et. al. to pay for people who did not evacuate a city that actually sits below sea level?  Could you please point to the part of our constitution that provides for that?  There is a crude saying that intimates that defecation rolls downhill.  The next time you hear that you can holler, "Bulldefecation!" and point to the Katrina whiners.  Apparently in that example the poop was punted up hill and cleared both the local and state officials and landed right in the middle of the federal government (read you and me's) soup bowl.  Another thing I thought was amusing was the last whiner.  He was really worked up about Blackwater.  The only mistake there was they were deployed to the wrong place.  Ask the crime statistician in any place that took in New Orleans refugees.

One reason I put up this post was because I believe the Federal government should not have gotten involved in this disaster. iI too think it is wrong to take money from me to pay FEMA to make sure water and other supplies from private sources could not get to New  Orleans. Actually I don't think this was a Federal matter at all.

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[PegLeg45]

Now, don't get me wrong. I would never in a million years wish a hurricane, or any other devastation, on anyone. I felt bad for the good folks of Louisianna and everyone else involved, including here in Georgia, and we donated what we could afford to the Red Cross to help.

What get's me, and I may be skewed in my vision, is the attention the Federal gov't heaped on Louisianna after Katrina.
That same year, 4 hurricanes blasted the devil out of Florida, one right behind the other, and did billions in damage. The gov't declared a 'state of emergency' but mostly the home folks WHO LEFT BEFORE IT WAS TOO LATE, went back and cleaned up the mess and went on with their business. They got a lot of help from others but not much other than a few news reports and some politicians looking for photo-ops from the gov't. Nobody made a big fuss over the hurricanes that hit Texas either.
It's 3 years later and they're still going on and on about Katrina.

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[tombogan03884]

Now, don't get me wrong. I would never in a million years wish a hurricane, or any other devastation, on anyone. I felt bad for the good folks of Louisianna and everyone else involved, including here in Georgia, and we donated what we could afford to the Red Cross to help.

What get's me, and I may be skewed in my vision, is the attention the Federal gov't heaped on Louisianna after Katrina.
That same year, 4 hurricanes blasted the devil out of Florida, one right behind the other, and did billions in damage. The gov't declared a 'state of emergency' but mostly the home folks WHO LEFT BEFORE IT WAS TOO LATE, went back and cleaned up the mess and went on with their business. They got a lot of help from others but not much other than a few news reports and some politicians looking for photo-ops from the gov't. Nobody made a big fuss over the hurricanes that hit Texas either.
It's 3 years later and they're still going on and on about Katrina.

Same way in Houston when Rita hit shortly after Katrina. The downtown area was flooded but the only deaths I heard about were in a bus accident (Fire) well outside the danger area.

[PegLeg45]

The Gulf Coast waits: Will it be another Katrina?

By STACEY PLAISANCE and BECKY BOHRER,
Associated Press Writer 11 minutes ago

NEW ORLEANS - With a historic evacuation complete, and gun-toting police and National Guardsmen standing watch over this city's empty streets, even presidential politics stood still Sunday while the nation waited to see if Hurricane Gustav would be another Katrina.

The storm was set to crash ashore midday Monday with frightful force, testing the three years of planning and rebuilding that followed Katrina's devastating blow to the Gulf Coast.

Painfully aware of the failings that led to that horrific suffering and more than 1,600 deaths, this time, officials moved beyond merely insisting tourists and residents leave south Louisiana. They threatened arrest, loaded thousands onto buses and warned that anyone who remained behind would not be rescued.

"Looters will go directly to jail. You will not get a pass this time," Mayor Ray Nagin said. "You will not have a temporary stay in the city. You will go directly to the Big House."

Col. Mike Edmondson, state police commander, said he believed that 90 percent of the population had fled the Louisiana coast. The exodus of 1.9 million people is the largest evacuation in state history, and thousands more had left from Mississippi, Alabama and flood-prone southeast Texas.

Louisiana and Mississippi changed traffic flow so all highway lanes led away from the coast, and cars were packed bumper-to-bumper. Stores and restaurants shut down, hotels closed and windows were boarded up. Some who planned to stay changed their mind at the last second, not willing to risk the worst.

"I was trying to get situated at home. I was trying to get things so it would be halfway safe," said 46-year-old painter Jerry Williams, who showed up at the city's Union Station to catch one of the last buses out of town. "You're torn. Do you leave it and worry about it, or do you stay and worry about living?"

Forecasters said Gustav was likely to grow stronger as it marched toward the coast with top sustained winds of around 115 mph. At 5 p.m. EDT Sunday, the National Hurricane Center said Gustav was a Category 3 storm centered about 215 miles southeast of the mouth of the Mississippi River and moving northwest near 18 mph.

Against all warnings, some gambled and decided to face its wrath. On an otherwise deserted commercial block of downtown Lafayette, about 135 miles west of the city, Tim Schooler removed the awnings from his photography studio. He thought about evacuating Sunday before decided he was better off riding out the storm at home with his wife, Nona.

"There's really no place to go. All the hotels are booked up to Little Rock and beyond," he said. "We're just hoping for the best."

There were frightening comparisons between Gustav and Katrina, which flooded 80 percent of New Orleans when storm surge overtook the levees. While Gustav isn't as large as Katrina, which was a massive Category 5 storm at roughly the same place in the Gulf, there was no doubt the storm posed a major threat to a partially rebuilt New Orleans and the flood-prone coasts of Louisiana and southeast Texas. The storm has already killed at least 94 people on its path through the Caribbean.

The storm could bring with it a storm surge of up to 14 feet and rainfall up to 20 inches wherever it hits. By comparison, Hurricane Katrina pushed about 25 feet of surge.

Mindful of the potential for disaster, the Republican Party scaled back its normally jubilant convention — set to kickoff as Gustav crashed ashore. President Bush said he would skip the convention all together, and Sen. John McCain visited Jackson, Miss., on Sunday as his campaign rewrote the script for the convention to emphasize a commitment to helping people.

Surge models suggest larger areas of southeast Louisiana, including parts of the greater New Orleans area, could be flooded by several feet of water. Gustav appears most likely to overwhelm the levees west of the city that have for decades been underfunded and neglected and are years from an update.

In the West Bank community of Harvey, Paul and Judy Ross were the last ones left on their street at 8 a.m. as he put the final boards covering the windows of his home as she loaded up the car. Their home flooded during Katrina when a nearby drainage canal overflowed as pumps failed, and levee work remains incomplete around the nearby Harvey Canal.

"We've had it up to here with New Orleans," the 56-year-old Ross said. "If we flood again, we're goners. I don't think we're coming back."

Even as they pressed to complete the evacuation, officials insisted there would be no repeat of the inept response to Katrina's wrath. Homeland Security Secretary Michael Chertoff said search and rescue will be the top priority once Gustav passes — high-water vehicles, helicopters and fixed-wing aircraft, Coast Guard cutters and a Navy vessel that is essentially a floating emergency room are posted around the strike zone.

West of New Orleans in Houma, he wished passengers well as stragglers boarded buses for Shreveport and Dallas.

"I think for people who haven't left, they really are die-hards, because they're taking their lives in their hands," he said. "I can't see any reason why a person staring down the barrel of a Category 3 or Category 4 hurricane would want to see if they can try to outfox Mother Nature. That's taking an awful risk with yourself and your family."

Melissa Lee, who lives in Pearl River, a town near the boundary of Mississippi and Louisiana, was driving away to Florida Sunday. Before she left, she heard neighbors chopping down trees with chain saws, trying to ensure the tall pines that surrounded their homes wouldn't come crashing down.

"I sent my son out with a camera and said, `Go take pictures of our backyard. Because it's going to look different when we get back.'"

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/gustav_gulf_coast;_ylt=AuDfADnk.ryqnsgjCQ_gcays0NUE

I wish everyone there safety from Gustav......looks like Hanna might be coming our way (Ga).

[twyacht]

I wish everyone there safety from Gustav......looks like Hanna might be coming our way (Ga).

Here in coastal NC, any storm presents lessons learned from the last one. I'm glad New Orleans is heeding the warnings, and the "system" for dealing with it has improved. I heard the strong stance from LEO's regarding those that don't evacuate this time, and the rampant looting won't occur again. I say, GOOD.

Some computer models have TS Hannah hitting anywhere between Savannah and the Outer Banks as a Cat 1, or strong TS.

Should be no problem, the storm and the potential for looting. We post big signs.



My neighbor kept his sign from Floyd in 99, it said "wounded looters will be shot again."

I hope and pray for those medical, fire, LEO's,  and National Guard personnel that have to stay.
Boy Scout motto applies, hopefully better this time.