CyberStrike & No-Fly Zone - - - WWIII In The Making?

[Rastus]

http://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/cia-prepping-possible-cyber-strike-against-russia-n666636

So the progressive, lying, idiot, lawyer-ridden Democratic prelude-to-oligarch rulers in Washington are, in the article in the posted link, saying that the CIA is preparing a covert (right, use that word once you talk about it...dummie)  cyberstrike on Russia in retaliation for messing with the US Presidential elections. 

Uncle Joe Biden was trotted out on this.  Let's assume that they are correct in saying the retaliation is for the elections and nothing else.  No doubt probes of US assets are initiated by the Russians...but that is not what the response here is for.  The CIA response is reportedly for probing unsecured private servers (Hillary Rotten Clinton & the DNC) and dumping emails which exposed the liars (HRC & DNC) for what they are. 

First, I doubt it was the Russians but maybe...go back to private unsecured servers and computers so really who was asking for it?  So the incompetence (or in the case of HRC, I believe deliberately unsecured equipment to provide foreign access as payback for the $$$$'s coming into she and Bill) of the Democratic Party and their outrage over exposure is causing the US Government assets to be employed against a sovereign foreign nation because they are throwing a temper tantrum about being exposed as the dirty dogs they are.

Then there is the move to establish a no-fly zone in Syria because of the humanitarian aspects of Aleppo.  Our bombs are better than their bombs....we have to do something because of the pictures.  The whole Syria mess is just so much more of the same from this administration....remember the Line In The Sand the Mouth-In-Chief spoke of?   

Essentially in Syria we are supporting Shi’a militias who are fighting the Islamic State (Sunnis). The militias we support are in Aleppo fighting the Sunnis in Aleppo and because we support the Kurds (our friends) we are supporting the Sunnis who are fighting the Shi'a in Aleppo...got it?  But our friends the Saudi's are funding ISIL and the overthrow of Assad.  We have friends fighting enemies and support enemies fighting friends so why doesn't the Middle East love us?

And now there are approximately 9,500 ISIL (Sunni) fighters in Mosul about to get overrun and it appears we are going to let them get away.  Why, so that they can go to Syria and topple Assad.  Who the heck are we manipulating/fighting now..why that would be Russian troops who will be facing the fleeing ISIL fighters...and so now it makes more sense why Russia is having the big nuclear drills and why we want the no-fly zone.  So the terrorists we are sworn to be fighting to exterminate live so they can kill Russians and topple Assad for the Saudi's.

The lawyers who run this nation (in the ground) must think they are in a courtroom setting.  That they can just issue a piece of paper and have the sheriff go pick someone up or stop something from happening by signing a piece of paper.  Hey, the "police" will protect them nothing will happen (to them).  That the rules they play by in the courtroom setting extend universally forever and will work against sovereign nations with nuclear weapons. 

Not to be an alarmist...but I am alarmed.  Are the progressives that scared of losing an election they would stage accusations against the Russians of election meddling and back it up with talk of a cyberstrike to divert attention from their dirty dealings...Yeah, I think so. 

I wonder if the world will ever have the opportunity to fear "Trump's finger on THE button" because the clueless idiots (on both sides of the aisle) running things who fear losing power (i.e., the presidential election) are going to get us all killed before then.

   

[alfsauve]

This is all very strange.   I mean all of it.


1)  What are they doing by telegraphing this?   I guess as a warning to Putin.   But wag your finger in his face and it could get bit off.

2)  It's to convenient that ALL the blame is pointing at Russia.  Not that they aren't, as are we, engaged in cyber spying.   But really.  Wouldn't they WANT Hillary as the next clueless President?  I mean, donate to the HF and you can do whatever you want in Europe.

3)  Russia cyber spying didn't warrant this severe a response until they started messing with Hillary.

4)  ISIS/ISIL has no air force.  So Russia put anti-aircraft missiles in Syria to protect that airspace from whom?  The US?

I use the Miss Kitty barometer for alarm-ism.   She said buy more ammo.   Working on it.

[Rastus]

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1)  What are they doing by telegraphing this?   I guess as a warning to Putin.   But wag your finger in his face and it could get bit off.

2)  It's to convenient that ALL the blame is pointing at Russia.  Not that they aren't, as are we, engaged in cyber spying.   But really.  Wouldn't they WANT Hillary as the next clueless President?  I mean, donate to the HF and you can do whatever you want in Europe.

3)  Russia cyber spying didn't warrant this severe a response until they started messing with Hillary.

4)  ISIS/ISIL has no air force.  So Russia put anti-aircraft missiles in Syria to protect that airspace from whom?  The US?

I use the Miss Kitty barometer for alarm-ism.   She said buy more ammo.   Working on it.

1.  I think it is just to influence voters to vote for Hillary.  I don't think the attacks on Trump are having the desired effect.
2.  That's what I think.
3.  Don't forget the DNC!  Temper tantrums...throwing a fit but using it to get the voter's eye looking where the DNC wants it.
4.  Yep.  And the Israelis I suppose.  They are wanting to protect their proxy assets supporting Assad and we want to protect our assets with our own no-fly.

I'd get some long-term food and other supplies as well as additional lead. 

[crusader rabbit]

To add a bit to the dilemma, a number of websites have noted that Putin has instructed Russian citizens to prepare for a nuclear event.  They are to know where their fallout shelter is.  They are to prepare medical kits.  They should cache a food supply.

Now, that could be something as simple as Putin trying to look tough to his people.  Or, it could be something much more sinister.

For those of us with a Christian orientation, we know that the final war will occur. We just can't be certain exactly when.  Perhaps this is the build-up to that.

And if we needed any further proof that the end times are upon us, Bob Dylan just won the Nobel Prize for literature.

Buy more ammo.

Crusader Rabbit

[Rastus]

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Buy more ammo.

Crusader Rabbit

Don't forget the dust/nurses masks so you don't breathe in particles and then some food.  You can get a year supply of food for a family of 4 from Sam's Club for about a grand.  You'll be eating food you'll really get sick of eating but that the guy next door will be more than willing to kill you for if he's hungry.

Send me your email addresses and I'll send back a spreadsheet of items and my short treatise on rice, beans and flour and calories to keep you alive.

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[tombogan03884]

First off, Putin HATES the democrats, one of the few mutual interests the US and Russia shared was the fight against Islamic terrorism. Remember that whole Beslan,2 Chechen wars thing ?  ISIS killed a couple Americans, they are on Russia's Southern border. The Democrats created ISIS and have consistently aided Islamic terrorism in Iran, and the Muslim Brotherhood, Syria has been a Soviet client state since the days of Nasser and the UAR in the 50's and Obama is actively helping Muslim terrorists try to overthrow him. While ISIS DOES have aircraft, several F-4 Phantoms, the Russian missiles are to deter our planes, he's trying to prevent another Libya.
Putin has stated recently that if Hillary is elected it will probably result in nuclear war. He has ordered all civilians and nonessential personnel to return to Russia and both Russia and China are re positioning forces, including missiles for an assault on the West, primarily England and the US.
So much for that "reset" button, Hillary must have made quite the impression in Putin's "inner sanctum".

[billt]

This is all very strange.   I mean all of it. 1)  What are they doing by telegraphing this?   I guess as a warning to Putin.   But wag your finger in his face and it could get bit off.

Remember when Trump brought this up at the last debate, and that bitch Raddatz started arguing with him, when he said how completely stupid it was?

[Rastus]

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So much for that "reset" button, Hillary must have made quite the impression in Putin's "inner sanctum".

And the Saudi's are pushing to overthrow Assad and fight their war in Yemen.  The rebels who fired missiles from Yemen at our destroyers are supplied by Iran whose missiles were supplied by China.  Iran is our enemy, ISIS (funded by our friends, the Saudi's) is our enemy but we treat them like our friend by influencing Iraq to let them flee into Syria to help topple Assad which means they will be killing Russians.

Assad is Shia, but there "be" a lot of Sunnis in Syria (at lease before they tucked tail and left and invaded Europe).  So the Sunni Saudis are supporting the Sunni ISIL terrorist to get rid of the Shia moslem Assad.  Once that is done it all links up with Saudi and Iraq.  The 90% or so Sunnis in the world go after Iran which is about 90-95% Shia and the Shia worldwide stronghold to settle once and (at least in the near term) forever what moslim is right.

This religious war has been brewing for centuries. 

So we are supporting Sunnis (the Saudis, Iraqis, etc., i.e., the guys who carry bombs) vs. the Shia's (supported by Russia and China).  By our support we are interested in moving into a unholy war between muslims with ourselves on one side, Russia and China on the other side.

The news media supports the "anti-war" progressive  and tolerant Democrats who have further destabilized the Middle East.  The media is run by progressive oligarch wannabes and their foot soldiers are mindless sycophants who lack the ability or desire to think on their own and regurgitate cute indignities and useless slogans that impress people at their parties.

The "truthful and peace loving Democrats" who are really progressive socialist/communist/oligarchs or oligarch wannabes are tolerant only of everything anti-American and who have just threatened, twice, the Russians with military action in Syria and on their own soil with a cyberstrike.

Once with a no-fly zone over Syria the Russians client state (i.e. their turf) which if they do nothing gets a lot of Russian soldiers killed and embarrasses the Russians in front of the world.  Which by the way, our military leaders have said will directly lead to a conflict/war with Russia.

Secondly with trumped-up (excuse the pun) accusations of the Russians attempting to influence US elections in order to gain advantage over Trump who they are desperately afraid of losing the US Presidential election to.

What could possibly go wrong here?

[tombogan03884]

This AM I read that Russian diplomats are saying US/ Russian relations are at the lowest point since The early 70's.
It might be the best thing that could happen . Yesterday Bane shared a post on FB  about "never trust anyone who's never been punched in the face" . Basiclly saying that some one who has never experienced violence/conflict/ challenge has no concept of things like honor, dignity, and determination.
Well, our grand parents had the Spanish flu, which killed more people than WWI, about 25% of the world population, our parents had the Depression, and WWII America hasn't been punched in the face since then, maybe it's time we were.
Certianly straighten out the snowflakes in their "safe spaces".

[billt]

This AM I read that Russian diplomats are saying US/ Russian relations are at the lowest point since The early 70's.
It might be the best thing that could happen . Yesterday Bane shared a post on FB  about "never trust anyone who's never been punched in the face". Basiclly saying that some one who has never experienced violence/conflict/ challenge has no concept of things like honor, dignity, and determination.
Well, our grand parents had the Spanish flu, which killed more people than WWI, about 25% of the world population, our parents had the Depression, and WWII America hasn't been punched in the face since then, maybe it's time we were.
Certianly straighten out the snowflakes in their "safe spaces".

Exactly right. All of this foolishness we're going through now, got it's start back in 2008 when Obama said in some bull$h!t speech during his campaign, that he believed all of our international diplomatic problems could be solved with, "proper dialogue". We now see what all of his worthless lip service has gotten us. Obama reminds me of the nerd in the school yard who got his lunch money stolen by the bully every day.

Today it's no different. Except for the fact Putin is the bully, and Obama is still the little nerd no one respects. Now Hillary is worse because she's nothing more than a emotional bitch who gets rattled, and right away over reacts. The Secret Service has said in private she's all but a total nut case. The only woman leader who had the stones to lead was Margret Thatcher. She proved it in the Falkland Island's campaign. And Hillary is no Thatcher.

I'm starting to read now that a lot of Trump supporters believe, as does Trump himself, that the entire election is rigged. And many are talking of not taking his loss lying down. If he loses, it will most certainly be time to start cracking skulls. It's not as if we'll have anything to lose. This country will not survive 4 years of Hillary..... Let alone 8.