The Transfer Is Complete

[billt]

Bill t is naive to think Obama is gone just because his party is lame, his policies rejected and his legacy in ruins. We can't even get rid of that pissant jimmy carter

And just who has Carter influenced politically, since he retired to raise peanuts and houses for the poor? The man has a hard enough time walking from place to place. People like Obama are completely powerless to influence Trump's policies and leadership. Or the people who voted him in. If he couldn't stop Trump on the campaign trail, when he was occupying the White House, he sure as hell won't stop him now on the golf course.

Add to that he has all but destroyed his own party politically. The Democrats have lost over 1,000 seats in Federal, state, and local politics since he took office 8 years ago. If the lost, directionless Democrats want to keep looking to him for more of the same, God help them. In that regard he'll be a Godsend.

It's the same with that completely bat $h!t crazy Pelosi. Another elite leftist who worked hand and hand with Obama to put them on the Kamikaze course they are now on. And what do they do? They keep her on in a position of "leadership" in their battered and bruised party. As bad as the Republican establishment is, they are smart enough to let go of the Bush's, as far as any source of political direction. After losing 2 straight Presidential elections with McCain and Romney, even they recognized Jeb as nothing but a political boat anchor.

With the possible exception of far left "news" outlets like MSNBC, (who have a microscopic audience), the country is finished with socialist preaching politicians. Obama has been overrated since he started his political career in Bill Ayers living room back in Chicago. Some may have liked his "cool" personality. But his policies, along with his, "leadership" have been solidly rejected. As of yesterday he's nothing but a political paper tiger, who is good for 30 seconds of filler on slow news nights.

[Rastus]

Bill it's not over.  Even if Trump does all he said times 2 there will be those stuffing their mouths and pockets who would say that Hillary would have done it better.  There are those who, if they lose their luxurious lifestyles, will lie in wait to recover their ill gotten wealth.

Trump has a tall order.  He drew a line yesterday and was as polite as one could be about it.  He said all of the politicians in DC are corrupt.  He needs a Congress to enact his vision...one of the things going on is delegitimizing his voters which makes it easier for the congressmen to discount the anger back home.  Once the congressmen aren't scared of the hometown voter it's easy for them to blow off the substance Trump's initiatives.

Trump needs some success and more than that he needs the grass roots to throw the bums out.  The people need to drain the swamp from the bottom up...to be successful it cannot be from the top down.

In the early '90's I was on a proposal team for a government contractor and spent some time on the beltway writing part of the eventually successful proposal.  It was an eye opening event to see where all of the money was.  I can only imagine how bad it is now.   

There is are powers and principalities lined against Trump and us.  It's only just begun.

[billt]

It's never "over". With that said the Democrats are going to have to abandon many of their political planks in their platform. AND secure new leadership to take them in a more sellable direction. Socialism isn't cutting it with the American people. I don't see them doing either any time soon. Especially after 8 years of failed policies. As I said, they're doubling down on the "leaders" who got them where they are now.

They are immune to the saying, "When you find yourself in a hole.... Stop digging." They can't. It took the Republicans 8 years to come up with a viable alternative to Obama. Which was Trump. And he faced an uphill battle all the way from his own people to get there. Now the Democrats are going to have to face the fact the people no longer want what they're trying to sell them. They under estimated, and abandoned the working middle class. Who were the backbone of their party for generations. They thought they could all be replaced with left wing radicals, wetbacks and minorities. They saw where that got them. And they won't win them back with more socialism.

Now they're faced with charting a completely new course with old, beaten, losing leadership. That's the equivalent of giving the Captain of the Titanic a raise, and a newer, bigger ship.... (Had he lived). Like alcoholism, the first step in recovery is to admit you have the problem. The Democrats have yet to do that. And it's doubtful they will any time soon. In the mean time, Trump will keep steam rolling along. Nothing converts people to your side like success. 

[MikeBjerum]

Pres. BHO is not gone!  Pres. Carter left office, and, after a respectful quiet time, went into humanitarian work.  He did it privately, and he was called on by different administrations from both parties.  He was also called by other organizations and nations.  BHO has carefully crafted and built his circle.  He has power and influence within the United Nations.  Pres. BHO will be spreading his ideology of a one world government outside of the sphere of the United States.  His supporters will praise him, and the world leaders of like mind will embrace him and view it as the "real American view."

[tombogan03884]

Democrats have been pushing the same agenda since they fought for slavery. Since even before they were an actual party.
 Whether promoting slavery, or so called "social programs", the messae has been the same, "Vote for me and live off some one ese's labor".
 They may try to repackage it but they will never change.
 They always have been and always will be the Francophile party of Hegelian humanism.

[Sponsor]

[alfsauve]

BHO has carefully crafted and built his circle.  He has power and influence within the United Nations.  Pres. BHO will be spreading his ideology of a one world government outside of the sphere of the United States.  His supporters will praise him, and the world leaders of like mind will embrace him and view it as the "real American view."

There was talk of him wanting to be Sec Gen of the UN.  But two flys in the ointment here, both could be overcome though.   1)  Any Security Council member could veto the nomination.  2) Custom has it, not a hard fast rule, that the SG can not be from a  Security Council nation.    Remembering that Trump will appoint the UN rep very soon.

From Wikipedia

Article 97 of the United Nations Charter determines that the Secretary-General is "appointed by the General Assembly upon the recommendation of the Security Council." As the recommendation must come from the Security Council, any of the five permanent members of the Council can veto a nomination. Most Secretaries-General are compromise candidates from middle powers and have little prior fame. Unofficial qualifications for the job have been set by precedent in previous selections. The appointee may not be a citizen of any of the Security Council's five permanent members.

[alfsauve]

...that the SG can not be from a  Security Council nation.

OH WAIT.   Could Obama produce a Kenyan birth certificate?

[tombogan03884]

Think Obama would get the Russian vote ?

OH WAIT.   Could Obama produce a Kenyan birth certificate?

Probably, he managed to produce a couple of US ones.


98-1  Mad Dog is in

[MikeBjerum]

OH WAIT.   Could Obama produce a Kenyan birth certificate?

It isn't the Kenyan Birth Certificate he needs.  It is the renouncing of U.S. Citizenship that got him into foreign universities that will cover it.  I gave up this crap long ago, because we let his supporters make fools of us over it while not simply answering the questions.  But, the evidence is still there.

[billt]

Democrats have been pushing the same agenda since they fought for slavery. Since even before they were an actual party.
 Whether promoting slavery, or so called "social programs", the messae has been the same, "Vote for me and live off some one else's labor".
 They may try to repackage it but they will never change.
 They always have been and always will be the Francophile party of Hegelian humanism.

Tom,

I agree with you 100% on what the liberal Democrats want in their platform. The reality is that it's completely non sustainable. Trying to create a society of leeches that feed off the hard work of others can never be accomplished, regardless of how you try to package it. Any more than a single swimmer can save 10 people who are drowning. We're seeing it all over Europe, with the massive debt that's been created by all of these socialist governments like Greece, Italy, France, and Spain. All of which are on the verge of economic collapse. And right here in our own country with Obama adding more debt in 8 years, than all the other 43 Presidents that preceded him. All with no improvement. And ending up leaving the country in worse shape then when he started.

This is a bit like a part time McDonalds worker talking about buying a new Cadillac. It will never happen regardless of how much they talk about it. And every economic attempt to make it happen will end in disaster. More and more people have seen how this type of government and society is both unachievable and completely unsustainable. All that are left to push it are the extreme, far left loons of the party. They are the one's currently running the Democratic Party in this country, and they are failing miserably. And it will only get worse. And Trump is the perfect guy to prove it to the remainder of these assholes who refuse to believe it can't happen.

Look at Madonna yesterday. This is a 50+ year old woman who made a direct, violent threat talking about, "blowing up the White House". These people are turning into anarchists because they have become so desperate. Their entire agenda has failed, along with their ability to elect people who they want to push it. I wouldn't be surprised if she was paid a visit by the Secret Service, or the FBI. Making direct, violent threats against the government isn't taken lightly. Especially with all of the terrorism going on worldwide, and all of the controversy surrounding Trump in the last several weeks since the election. If anything they can make a perfect example of her. Every time she farts, there is a camera nearby to record it.

Compare the Democrats today to the same party under JFK. (Who was a gun collector and a NRA Life Member by the way). They could all be classified as moderate to conservative Republicans by today's political standards. They have gone completely off the rails, as their party continues to disintegrate before their very eyes. And they're only making it worse. They could save it if they changed direction. They can't and they won't. They'll keep doubling down on the disastrous antics and policies that got them where they are today. If there ever was a political party in self destruct mode, this is it. Nothing left to do but make the popcorn.