Gun & Ammunition Sales & The Election

[Jim Kennedy-ar154me]

as Tom said. This is the best the pro gun people have had it in decades.

Yep. But that also means the environment is also the best to push MORE pro-gun laws into effect. Push MORE states with Constitutional carry, etc...

[Majer]

I live in NY, we are fighting the anti's,But until nycity sinks or is made a separate state,we get outvoted. Until EVERY gun owner in the state votes against the anti's,there isn't much we can do.

[tombogan03884]

Yep. But that also means the environment is also the best to push MORE pro-gun laws into effect. Push MORE states with Constitutional carry, etc...

When you've got them on the ropes isn't time to back.
 It's time to step in and smash them .

[billt]

I live in NY, we are fighting the anti's,But until nycity sinks or is made a separate state,we get outvoted. Until EVERY gun owner in the state votes against the anti's,there isn't much we can do.

We were faced with the same thing when I lived in Illinois. Chicago runs Illinois. Not Springfield. There is nothing anyone can do in that state to fight it. It just keeps getting worse. More crime = more gun laws. It's a never ending saga that just keeps going. I got out in 1991 and it was bad then. It's 10 times worse now.

[alfsauve]

Just a point of reference.  Atlanta is smaller than Chicago, with about 1/3 the population density, but still they just had their first homocide of 2017 this week.    Of course we're a must issue state with gun stores on every corner, but hey 1 homocide in 3 months.

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[tombogan03884]

Chitcago  is already over 700 shootings for the year.

http://crime.chicagotribune.com/chicago/shootings/


Another thing about gun sales.
There is nothing to get excited about.
They are all the same 4 basic designs,
1) Glock's and clones
2) 1911's
3) Pocket pistols
4)Revolvers
With in the groups there is nothing to chose from except caliber.
No styling or graceful lines like in earlier ages, no exposed barrels, no variation from the "norm" and no character.

[alfsauve]

They are all the same 4 basic designs,
1) Glock's and clones
2) 1911's
3) Pocket pistols
4)Revolvers
With in the groups there is nothing to chose from except caliber.
No styling or graceful lines like in earlier ages, no exposed barrels, no variation from the "norm" and no character.

I understand your point, but I think there is some variety.   The R-51 was an attempt to introduce something a little different.

And you left out DA/SA's like the PP/PPK and the Beretta 92 among many others.

[tombogan03884]

I understand your point, but I think there is some variety.   The R-51 was an attempt to introduce something a little different.

And you left out DA/SA's like the PP/PPK and the Beretta 92 among many others.

 That's exactly my point, both the PPK and the Beretta are 1930's designs the grand total of changes is a double stack mag for the Beretta.

[alfsauve]

True, the basic technology has just been tinkered with,  e.g.,  Glock figured how to bond a minimal metal rail to a polymer frame and Sig figured how to make it work without the bonding.   Chiappa fires out the bottom of the cylinder (probably not the first to do so).   But yeah, besides single shots, five basic designs.

Basically the same is true about rifles and oh-my shotguns are probably even more static. 

What would be a game changer in firearms?   How about a handheld Rail Gun?  And with Tesla's help, batteries to support that might be around the corner.   

Even if someone came up with a PPK size .45acp that had the recoil of a .22, the noise level of a bb gun, and the capacity of a 92, it's still just 80 year old da/sa.   


 

[Big Frank]

What's really happened with shotguns in the last 110+ years? Semi-autos have mostly switched from recoil operated to gas operated and back to recoil operated. Nothing to get excited about yet post-election.