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Re: Muzzle BREAKS & other things you can't stand
« Reply #20 on: November 16, 2017, 04:14:10 PM »
Quote from: ar154me on November 16, 2017, 01:33:15 PM
That is a VERY good definition. I think it just became my definitive definition for the difference between the two! Thank you.

You're welcome. I just searched what's the difference between a pistol and revolver and found this writer's guide to weapons. I only skimmed through it but it looks right except for maybe a pepperbox with stationary barrels. I thought all pepperboxes had revolving barrels, and handguns with multiple fixed barrels were just pistols. Judging by Wikipedia the .357 COP was a pepperbox too and I was wrong. I also came across a page where someone said the ATF considers all handguns to be pistols if they aren't revolvers. That's a simple enough definition. https://crimefictionbook.com/2015/10/22/revolver-pistol-differences/
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Re: Muzzle BREAKS & other things you can't stand
« Reply #21 on: December 24, 2017, 11:19:29 PM »
I just got done watching Jeepers Creepers 3 and was amused by the "20mm Vulcan" they had. The barrels were made out of thin tubing and in my estimation the bore would be around 35mm. It had a charging handle on the side and was belt fed with what looked like .50 BMG. There was a huge difference in size between the ammo and the bore of the barrels. As if all that wasn't ridiculous enough the barrels all fired but didn't rotate.
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Re: Muzzle BREAKS & other things you can't stand
« Reply #22 on: December 25, 2017, 08:48:39 AM »
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Re: Muzzle BREAKS & other things you can't stand
« Reply #23 on: December 29, 2017, 09:44:56 PM »
I'm watching the latest episode of Van Helsing and they have a short-barrelled AR with BUIS folded down in the rear and no front sight whatsoever. I thought it was bad when people in all these different shows had ARs with no rear sight, but come on, anyone who knows what end the bullets come out of would know you need a front sight.
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Re: Muzzle BREAKS & other things you can't stand
« Reply #24 on: February 16, 2018, 12:54:57 PM »
Here's something I see so much I'm used to it and don't even care anymore. Someone gets shot and goes flying across the room. Even if the people making all the movies and TV shows that show this know nothing about guns, they should understand the most basic concepts of physics. If a guy gets blasted across the room and out the window with a shotgun, the person with the gun should fly backward too, if they could even hang on to the gun. If not, the gun should fly through the wall behind them. In this trailer for the movie The Babysitter, she gets shot with a pistol and goes flying across the room and slams into the wall. It happens at 1:45, so if you start at 1:40 you won't miss anything.

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qibY77AWlUc
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Re: Muzzle BREAKS & other things you can't stand
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Re: Muzzle BREAKS & other things you can't stand
« Reply #25 on: February 18, 2018, 12:08:49 PM »
This is the closest example physics-wise, and still not even close to Hollyweird's antics.
Much of what happens in this video is due to poor stance and not being prepared for it.



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Re: Muzzle BREAKS & other things you can't stand
« Reply #26 on: March 10, 2018, 12:42:22 PM »
I've noticed in most movies and TV shows that if a bullet doesn't go completely through someone, it usually penetrates an inch or two, and is easy to dig out. Once the bullet is out they're okay. All the damage it causes doesn't matter as long as you get that pesky bullet out. Sometimes they just slap a bandage on and they're good to go. If it's a through and through, a bandage on the front only seems to be good enough. Or just keep pressure on it. The other bullet hole doesn't matter. Other times they'll sew up the wound on the front, and ignore the one on the back if there is one. Getting gut shot and bleeding internally isn't a problem as long as they sew the entry wound shut and slap on a bandage.
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Re: Muzzle BREAKS & other things you can't stand
« Reply #27 on: March 11, 2018, 10:09:52 AM »
JumboFrank, as Bunny frequently tells me when I go apoplectic at some stupidity on the screen:  It's just TV, honey.

The idea of patching the front hole and leaving the back and achieving full and instantaneous recovery would have been quite helpful to a number of my brothers in Viet Nam.  Unfortunately, they didn't have the benefit of TV miracles.  Back and front required surgical repair and subsequent patching of both sides, and recovery was never instant.

But, it's Hollywood.

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Re: Muzzle BREAKS & other things you can't stand
« Reply #28 on: March 11, 2018, 01:12:49 PM »
If something unreal happens in a magical, mystical, alternate reality setting that's okay. But when unreal things are portrayed as happening in the real world, it detracts from the viewing experience for me. Some people are stupid enough to believe that if they put a bandage over the front and back bullet holes, ignoring everything in between, all will be okay. I hope I never have to rely on them for medical care. On the show 911 a guy had a piece of rebar through his head. Doctors pulled it out and the next week he was back at work and completely healed. That's nearly as bad as the people who are shot and then back at work the next day.
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Re: Muzzle BREAKS & other things you can't stand
« Reply #29 on: March 13, 2018, 01:36:15 PM »
I, unfortunately, am into Guns, Ham Radio, and I am an I.T. guy (Also an ex-navy Nuclear power ET). That means I drive my wife absolutely NUTS pointing out mistakes on T.V. to the point she often does not want to be around me when watching T.V.

Like stated, to me, it takes away from the entertainment when the script defers too far away from the truth. Movies that "get it right" are way more entertaining to me unless the movie is meant to be pure fantasy, say like Avatar, or something like that.
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