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Re: Who is going to be first to get one of these...Bilt or ???
« Reply #10 on: January 29, 2018, 09:13:23 AM »
PDW= Personal Defense Weapon
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Re: Who is going to be first to get one of these...Bilt or ???
« Reply #11 on: January 29, 2018, 09:55:52 PM »
in case you are not familiar with the .300 BLK (Blackout) ... it is a 5.56 (.223) case necked up to hold a .30 projectile.. allows projectiles in the 140 grain or better range... needs only a .30 cal barrel as the bolt face is the same, and the cartridges fit in an AR magazine (unlike the heavy tapered 7.62x39 AK round)
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Re: Who is going to be first to get one of these...Bilt or ???
« Reply #12 on: January 29, 2018, 10:31:52 PM »
Quote from: les snyder on January 29, 2018, 09:55:52 PM
in case you are not familiar with the .300 BLK (Blackout) ... it is a 5.56 (.223) case necked up to hold a .30 projectile.. allows projectiles in the 140 grain or better range... needs only a .30 cal barrel as the bolt face is the same, and the cartridges fit in an AR magazine (unlike the heavy tapered 7.62x39 AK round)

Not just necked up but shortened to 1.368 in. (34.7 mm), slightly shorter than a .221 Remington Fireball, 1.400 in. (35.6 mm). More like a necked up Fireball than a 5.56 NATO. Muzzle energy varies by bullet weight and velocity but some are around the same ME as a .44 mag.
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Re: Who is going to be first to get one of these...Bilt or ???
« Reply #13 on: January 30, 2018, 05:12:28 AM »
You silly people and your toys.

Here's a real PWD.  In a serious caliber.   45/70





Called, btw, the Ladies Home Companion



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Re: Who is going to be first to get one of these...Bilt or ???
« Reply #14 on: January 30, 2018, 07:05:41 AM »
my attempt at a PDW was to use available non proprietary AR components other than the LAW folding adapter... a 7" PSA 5.56 upper, LAW folding adapter, and PSA pistol lower (pistol tube used with the adapter) gave me a compact unit that could be carried in a gym bag, quickly deployed, and shoulder fired... 2" 100yd accuracy with good ammo
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Re: Who is going to be first to get one of these...Bilt or ???
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Re: Who is going to be first to get one of these...Bilt or ???
« Reply #15 on: January 30, 2018, 04:46:23 PM »
Video: 1990s 45-70 Ladies Home Companion Revolver – Worst Handgun Ever?
Massive, impractical, poorly-made... and strangely enticing.

http://www.alloutdoor.com/2015/09/21/video-1990s-45-70-ladies-home-companion-revolver-worst-handgun-ever/

There may have been a .410 bore version too.
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Re: Who is going to be first to get one of these...Bilt or ???
« Reply #16 on: February 01, 2018, 06:20:14 AM »
Well...yeah I get it there are more practical options.  And...to that point, I already have two PS-90's for PDW's that I dearly love. 

However, how can you not love a "face" and "bod" that looks like this:


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Re: Who is going to be first to get one of these...Bilt or ???
« Reply #17 on: February 01, 2018, 08:36:09 AM »
I do not like them. They  look way too fancy
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Re: Who is going to be first to get one of these...Bilt or ???
« Reply #18 on: February 01, 2018, 04:07:39 PM »
They don't really do anything for me in the aesthetics department ....... they look cumbersome.
That being said, I wouldn't turn down a free one.  ;D
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Re: Who is going to be first to get one of these...Bilt or ???
« Reply #19 on: February 01, 2018, 05:23:45 PM »
The butt doesn't look like it belongs with the rest of it. It's too cheap looking.
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