Scope question. About reticles

[Big Frank]

I was thinking about that last night. I'd rather have a $400 rifle with a $400 scope than an $800 rifle with a $40 scope.

[DesertMarine]

I was thinking about that last night. I'd rather have a $400 rifle with a $400 scope than an $800 rifle with a $40 scope.

I am trying out a 10/22 for rimfire silhouette matches on which I mounted a Leupold 6.5X20 EFR scope.  Guys at the range were making fun of putting a $700 scope on a $200 rifle.  Got some surprising results from it.  Don't want to put a lot of money into the 10/22, would like a Winchester 52 or old Remington 521/40X or something like that.  Will probably wind up with a CZ 453 Varmit and the Leupold 6.5X20.

[Hazcat]

DM

6x20 on a 10-22!!!!!  Ya gots some thunkin ta do there, son.  Ya gots it all backerds! 

A course if'n it were on a 22-250 err sumpin' like that there, then it'd make sense on a '22'.  Ya unnerstand now, youngin?

(to every one else...DM is from the back country so you have to speak his dialect to make it clear for him. )

[m25operator]

Haz, as I mentioned, it's all about the size of the target and how far away.

.22rf rifle silhouette is one of the most challenging matches there is. The chickens at 40 meters, are about the size of a half dollar,, the pigs at 50 meters are like shooting at a 2x4 from the end, the turkeys at 75 meters, ( the hardest ) are like shooting a tennis ball, and then the rams at 100 meters are like shooting at someones hand stuck out for a handshake. Most scopes reticles will subtend bigger than the target, and a .22 riflescopes parallax is usually set for 75 yards. You need a good scope with parallax adjustment down to 50 yards at least, with excellent adjustment capability, with a .22rf, you do have to adjust from 40 to 100 meters. In a rifle the .22rf drops 7" from 50 to 100 meters. Not to mention, the wind is a huge factor in rimfire. Plus you need to see the target, a 3x9 won't get you there, maybe with a very fine cross hair reticle, but it will make it hard.

Another subject, .22rf in the field, you are usually shooting at small animals, squirrels, rabbits and such, a higher magnification makes sense, at least a 3x9.

Now to the Chevy team challenge, 1 target at 100 meters is approx. 2 1/2" tall and 1" wide, you gonna hit that with something less than 10 power???

[Hazcat]

I shoot 100 yards with my old Springfield 84C- and a 3x9 Bushnell all the time.  Yes, I honestly think I could hit a 2.5 x 1 inch target (depending on wind) at 100 yards with it quite readily.

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[m25operator]

Haz I love ya, but mark a diamond 2 1/2 tall and 1" wide, you won't be able to see it. Your reticle will cover it up.

I'm all for low cost products, but that will not get it done.

[Hazcat]

Haz I love ya, but mark a diamond 2 1/2 tall and 1" wide, you won't be able to see it. Your reticle will cover it up.

I'm all for low cost products, but that will not get it done.

Yer on, buddy!  It should be fun to try!

[tombogan03884]

 Haz, This is the dialect DM understands best.

[Hazcat]

Haz, This is the dialect DM understands best.

Too bad I don't have any of my hats any more.

[DesertMarine]

Hell Hazcat, man has to do what he has to do.  Obivious you are not a Jarhead, the Gunny is wearing a cover or a Smoky, not a hat.  On the ground and give me 20.

Try getting a 1" group at 70 yds with a stock .22 and a low power, low cost scope.  Git er done Son.