Volkswagen Jetta vs. Toyota Corolla ??

[TAB]

I m ow lots of people that lease, they get a new car every 3 years and for the most part it is the same and / oress then buying.  For you and I that  drive them till the wheels fall off it does not make sense, but for the crowd that wants. New car every few years it does

[Timothy]

I’d consider leasing when I’m done working and won’t put on 20-30K miles annually.

My neighbor is paying just over a Benjamin per month for a compact Hyundai sedan...don’t know what their upfront costs were.

[Rastus]

Well Bill, what's it gonna be?  I will throw in my 2 cents...one of my sons got a Mazda 6.  It's a sporty looking dude.  A little noisy inside, but it's been a great and economical car.  No problems at all.

On the other hand...does it have to be new?  I'm driving our 2002 Excursion and it has 394,000 miles on it right now.  The water pumps and alternators are free now....that lifetime warranty thing.  A well taken care of diesel has a lot of life in though I'd avoid Ford 6.0 liter vehicles.  My 2006 F250 has 207,000 miles and I had to change out the injectors at 185k miles....there's a problem with that model's injectors.

[Timothy]

Well Bill, what's it gonna be?  I will throw in my 2 cents...one of my sons got a Mazda 6.  It's a sporty looking dude.  A little noisy inside, but it's been a great and economical car.  No problems at all.

On the other hand...does it have to be new?  I'm driving our 2002 Excursion and it has 394,000 miles on it right now.  The water pumps and alternators are free now....that lifetime warranty thing.  A well taken care of diesel has a lot of life in though I'd avoid Ford 6.0 liter vehicles.  My 2006 F250 has 207,000 miles and I had to change out the injectors at 185k miles....there's a problem with that model's injectors.

Wow, only 600,000 miles on your Fords?  What junk!!!

[billt]

Well Bill, what's it gonna be?

Corolla. Unless they get sold, most likely one of these 2. I'll be ready to buy in a week or 2. Believe it or not, these were the only 2 Toyota Corolla's I could find in the entire city of Phoenix without cloth interiors.

https://www.toyotaofsurprise.com/inventory.aspx?_new=true&_model=corolla&_trim=xse

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[Rastus]

I think the Toyota may be the better purchase right now. 

I'm actually looking for a new truck since last week I gave my F250 to family member who needs it in their construction business.  So...what dealer want to do is sell the stuff on the lot that they think everyone wants...and most people do want that.  I'm trying to find a truck without a console...which is tough because it's only available in a lower model which only has packages that exclude some of the things I want...like leather seats.  Plus I test drive an F150 and it has more noise in it than an F250 with a diesel...but I don't want the honkin' big F250 I want something easier to drive but I also don't want to deal with the noisy F150 interior. 

And another thing...I understand the F250 has the big honkin' diesel in it...but did they really need to stiffen the "power steering" so the driver gets the feel of driving a big honkin' diesel.  Sheesshhh...I can turn our RV with a little finger but I need to hang off 250 lbs on the steering wheel to pull the wheel over to steer the F250.  I can't reach over the side and get to anything in the bed of the F250 it's so stinking high in the air...not a problem with my 2006.  So...F250 is out.  Dealer is checking on an aftermarket sound deadening package in the F150.

Timothy I'm driving the Excursion right now and it's solid but after nearly 400k miles it's a bit dated because the paint was ruined by taking it to car washes (I didn't do it).  I was kickin' at 80-85 doing fine on the way home.  That 7.3L diesel is a bulletproof dude but I need some interior work on it plus it's always been noisy and I'm wanting to ditch the noise to enjoy tunes while driving. 

[billt]

I think the Toyota may be the better purchase right now.

I think so too. They're reputation for reliability is second to none. And their CVT Transmissions are among the most reliable out there. A lot of people badmouth CVT's, but not because of reliability. But rather because of how they drive. There is no shifting. Just a smooth, steady acceleration and transfer of power. They are very boring and unexciting in that regard.

I can easily live with boring and unexciting, in exchange for great fuel economy and good reliability. And the car looks good. At least in the upgraded version. I just don't want cloth seats. They don't wear well, and we have a small dog. His nails can easily snag in the upholstery, and pull out threads. They also get very dirty quickly. So while they are a bit cooler in the hot Summer months, it really doesn't matter because you have the A/C blasting every time you get in the car.

I just can't put into words how much I despise dealing with car salesmen. They can suck every ounce of joy out of buying a new vehicle. My bull$h!t meter gets pegged in 5 minutes when I am forced to deal with them. So I don't look forward to the purchase. Afterward, yes. Before and during... No.   

[Rastus]

Yep the sales guys are a problem.  Back when I bought the Excursion we were looking at the Suburbans...1/2 the people I know had transmission problems.  So I knew they had an issue plus I had replaced a couple of GM transmissions in my past.

When I asked the sales guy of course none of that was true...I told him I'd buy it if he guaranteed 200k miles out of the transmission or shut up.  He did not have enough sense to go buy an aftermarket warranty.  The Excursion easily outdistanced the Suburban in longevity and low maintenance so he did me a favor.  But I'll not forget the way I was told the GM transmissions never had a failure in their cars.....

[Timothy]

Remember guys, most car salesman can’t change their own oil, they’d call a wrecker to change a flat or bring em a gallon of gas!

Good luck with the Corolla, I had one back in the eighties.  An SR5 with the bulletproof 20R motor, 5 speed, rwd!  It was a blast to drive in the winter..

Not as anemic as current models but times change.

[billt]

Remember guys, most car salesman can’t change their own oil, they’d call a wrecker to change a flat or bring em a gallon of gas!

That was another plus for the 2018 Corolla. I checked and both the oil drain plug, and the spin on oil filter had easy access. So oil and filter changes shouldn't be a problem.