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What do you think of the Coronavirus outbreak in China?

A big deal for China.
0 (0%)
Not a big deal for China.
1 (7.1%)
Coming soon to a town you know.
2 (14.3%)
We won't have any problems in the US with it.
0 (0%)
Time to get prepared just in case.
2 (14.3%)
I am prepared for this Wuhan Chinese Flu.
6 (42.9%)
I am going to be ready if the US economy collapses in mid-April.
3 (21.4%)

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Re: Coronavirus Outbreak
« Reply #120 on: April 23, 2020, 02:48:36 AM »
Well, is everyone enjoying their free 30 day trial of Communism? 

I bet the people in Michigan are really having themselves a time of it....

What, you don't like living in the United Soviet States of America? I'm sitting on my butt at home like I do most days, but it sucks not being able to take care of  business. I want to take my ATV to the dealer for its first service since it's broken in, but it's not vitally important. Nether is getting new ORV stickers that expire March 31st each year. I would take a gander at the guns at Gander Outdoors and buy my stickers there if I was riding anytime soon. Plus me and my brothers and sister-in-law need to keep cleaning up my mom's house but can't go over there. I wouldn't go anyway since I've been coughing for a month. I can still breathe okay but I won't be running any marathons. Not that anyone would see me running unless I was on fire. UPS, USPS, and FedEx still bring me packages of stuff I buy online, but my mail has gone down to practically nothing. I think they're just tossing a lot of it. I should read the big pile I already have.

P.S. Anyone who doesn't have direct deposit should get some of their money back by check starting sometime next month. It was nice having that $1,200 deposit in my savings with the $90 I had left in the budget.
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Re: Coronavirus Outbreak
« Reply #121 on: April 23, 2020, 12:09:15 PM »
What, you don't like living in the United Soviet States of America?


You mean THE NEW AND IMPROVED USSR....er, I mean USSA.

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***Too much in the sarcasm department?
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Re: Coronavirus Outbreak
« Reply #122 on: April 23, 2020, 01:05:22 PM »

You mean THE NEW AND IMPROVED USSR....er, I mean USSA.

"Just because others have failed doesn't mean it won't work THIS time, I mean we're so much MORE progressive and enthusiastic THIS TIME...... WE CAN DO IT!!"

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***Too much in the sarcasm department?

Correct.  I believe it would be hard to find previous subjects of the "Socialist" movement who were more oblivious to the flaws exposed by previous failures.  Totally ignoring damning evidence to this degree is an exceptional trait of the current crop of True Believers.
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Re: Coronavirus Outbreak
« Reply #123 on: April 23, 2020, 03:59:47 PM »
Correct.  I believe it would be hard to find previous subjects of the "Socialist" movement who were more oblivious to the flaws exposed by previous failures.  Totally ignoring damning evidence to this degree is an exceptional trait of the current crop of True Believers.

Well, you know what is sometimes said about folk who keep doing the same thing, in futility, while expecting different results.
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Re: Coronavirus Outbreak
« Reply #124 on: April 24, 2020, 08:14:33 PM »
I got an emergency alert message on my cell phone today. The governor extended the stay home, stay safe date until May 15th. At the same time a lot of her old EOs have expired or been rescinded, but they used a different word for it. All of the state parks are still open except one that people from all over the state were going to. They wouldn't the observe social distancing rule, so that park got shut down. You can still go fishing, boating, ATV riding, stay at a vacation property if you have one and things like that as long as you maintain a 6' space from anyone who doesn't live with you. But they'd prefer you don't travel to go do any of those things. Well, most people don't live on ATV trails, or in lakes or state forests, so they would have to travel to get there.
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Re: Coronavirus Outbreak
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Re: Coronavirus Outbreak
« Reply #125 on: April 25, 2020, 08:59:18 AM »
We got extended to May 30.  We knew it was coming, because four govs. got together for a meeting:  Minnesota, Wisconsin, Illinois, and I can't remember #4, maybe Michigan.  Walz in Minnesota announced the extension the next day, within  week Wisconsin announced, and Pritzker made his announcement Thursday.

I am filing this right along with what jumbofrank said, that we aren't being careful, so they regulate us.  That is how Illinois started back in the middle of March, with the St. Patrick's Day parties.

This isn't fun, but we are getting by, we are using Zoom and messenger, and lots of delivery services.  We are saving money too.  I filled the pickup with gas in February on the way to the airport for a short trip to Florida, and it still has half a tank, and I filled the car in about the 10th of March, and it hasn't been driven in six weeks.  Outside of picking up prescriptions (done drive thru) and hospital and dr office visits, I don't think we have put more than five miles on.

I think we are close to getting over the hump on this one, I hope the secondary outbreak will be small, and then I pray we can move on with a process back to normal.
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Re: Coronavirus Outbreak
« Reply #126 on: April 25, 2020, 12:13:38 PM »
We had slightly over a 10% increases in confirmed cases in my county from Thursday to Friday this week.  Michigan seemed to be plateauing, but had increases Thursday and Friday also.  Although I think they said the percentage of confirmed cases of those tested was falling.  More testing is going to show more cases also.  I wonder if the increase might be a reflection of Easter weekend family gathering.  Timing seems about right, a few days of incubation, a few days for testing and results, and a couple days for new cases to show up in the reports.

I'm taking the whole thing seriously and mostly staying holed up as I most likely am in a higher risk category.  Have had several grocery deliveries.  My neighbor is a manager at a Michigan based regional superstore chain.  I talked to him a few days back when we saw each other outside.  I asked him about his health and the employees and stock supplies and availability of items at his store.  Supply has been catching up and they are getting most items, including brand name paper products, disinfecting wipes, and hand sanitizer.  A couple days later he knocked on my door.  He brought me some paper towels, facial tissues, disinfectant wipes, and hand sanitizer.  I thanked him for his thoughtfulness.  I asked him what I owed him.  He replied that I didn't owe him anything and said "I'll bless you with this today".  I was so overwhelmed by his thoughtfulness and generosity I cried.

Although I'm taking this seriously, I think our Governor has gone overboard on some of her executive orders. 

     

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Re: Coronavirus Outbreak
« Reply #127 on: April 25, 2020, 03:56:48 PM »
One thing that is not hurting is the retail stores that are allowed to stay open.

I spoke with a hs friend last night that manages " problem" stores for home depot in northern ca.   He told me pretty much every  garden center has had more sales in the last month then they did last year and that shrink is way down.  Mainly due to them limiting the stores too 100 people in at a time.   So loss prevent can watch people alot better.   The store he is at now was one that was having 300k+ in theft a month is now down to about 75k.  Which is still a lot, but drasticaly  lower than thier average.

He said over all the store profits are up as people are buying less buildimg materials ( which is a few % mark up) and are buying stuff where the profit is huge like paint,  garden, home decore and other none building materials.   Total sales volume is down, but the store is making more.


He also said that the local counties are already complaining aboit the lack of sales tax revenue, so expect a increase on the next ballot and all " fees" will be going up.


On a more personal note, i have been talking with several engineers about, drawing up plans for my house.   I will be doing the floor plan and the elevations(  view from the outside)   as i use to work for a structural  engineering  firm and they are very easy for me to do.  I just dont have a pe to stamp the engineered drawings.


I keep debating if i want to start a thread about it.  Some members may find it intresting, but in the other hand do i really want to broadcast my home to the world.   What do you guys think?    I am not worried about showing  off stuff like hiding places as every criminal worth thier salt already knows where to look.
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Re: Coronavirus Outbreak
« Reply #128 on: April 25, 2020, 06:01:04 PM »
I'd really be interested in seeing that work....but just as leery as you about security....

Perhaps you could find a secure site to post the plans and discussion and give the PW out in private  messages here?  Or send it to email addresses?


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Re: Coronavirus Outbreak
« Reply #129 on: April 25, 2020, 06:35:47 PM »
Honestly, not too worried about security, property tax records are public, it would not be hard to figure out where i live if you have even a smallest bit of my personal  info.    Lets not forget that for at least the last 20 years my name has been on a searchable public data bases (at least 20 contain my name and contact info )  some it will remain on them for 25 years after i closed down that liscense ( ca contractors board for example)


I can think of several places i could do that and would be secure, just not really into having to manage that.


The floor plan and elevations are not exactly security  concerns unless  some one really wants to come after me... then again for a small fee those could be had at the local building department.  As once again, public info.
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