Suppressed 22 pistols.

[Majer]

Yes, But I was just replying to Alfs comment that they are hard to take down and put back together.

[billt]

I have several Ruger's and Buckmark's. Ruger Mark I's, II's, and Mark III's are a total PITA to disassemble and reassemble. No way around it. There are aftermarket companies who offer different pawls and other such parts that help in getting the damn things back together. But they're still a pain. You have to be really familiar with these guns, and know all of the little, "tricks and secrets", or else you'll have a difficult time. The problem is 99.9% of the buyers of these guns don't. Overall you'll have a more difficult time putting a Mark I, II, or III back together, than a whore trying to keep her skirt clean on a dirt floor.

The Mark IV is a whole different ball game. They are a breeze to field strip and reassemble. Much easier than the Buckmark, because there are no screws or tools involved. So as far as breaking all of them down for cleaning, installing aftermarket parts, etc. The Ruger Mark I, II, and III are a PITA. Then comes the Buckmark. And the Ruger Mark IV is the easiest of all.

The next difference is the Ruger is all steel, (except for the frame on the blued Mark IV, which is Aluminum). The Buckmark employs an all Aluminum frame on all of their models. This is personal preference, because both the Aluminum framed Buckmarks, and steel framed Rugers run fine, and deliver years of shooting, and tens of thousands of trouble free rounds.

As far as price, there isn't enough difference to worry about. The same can be said for different styles, types, and barrel lengths. Both have something to suit most everyone. And most importantly from a suppressor standpoint, both offer many threaded barrel options. As do aftermarket companies, which are well supported by both models. And as Tom said, other then Ruger and Browning, there really aren't any other manufacturers worth considering in a suppressed .22 pistol. 

[tombogan03884]

Majer, I understood that.
But I didn't care about annoying reassembly.
I'd just got done putting my S&W back together.   
Took 3 video's to see what I was missing.   

[alfsauve]

Yes, But I was just replying to Alfs comment that they are hard to take down and put back together.

I must not have phrased that well.  I wasn't commenting on take-down difficulties of Ruger I-III but that on Rugers  the barrel assembly is the "gun" and to buy a new barrel you have to do an FFL transfer.  May be the only .22 designed that way. 

[Timothy]

2 cents

Never owned a Ruger or Browning, only a seriously used High Standard.

Was working one night and a guy asked me how to take down a Mk IV at the counter.  Took me about five seconds of looking (no instructions) another few to find the clicky button and it basically falls apart...not literally but close..

Not a fan of cleaning...  I torture test my guns!

[Sponsor]

[PegLeg45]

I must not have phrased that well.  I wasn't commenting on take-down difficulties of Ruger I-III but that on Rugers  the barrel assembly is the "gun" and to buy a new barrel you have to do an FFL transfer.  May be the only .22 designed that way.

Exactly why I like the Browning better. You can buy multiple barrels for the Buckmark from vendors like TacSol and swap them as you see fit.

Don't get me wrong, I'm not bashing the Ruger. They set the standard for years and I like them. They were the number one pistol in our Bullseye matches 30 years ago.

[tombogan03884]

I've had both .
There's nothing to choose between on performance, so it will come down to replacement parts, Tactical Solutions makes them equal there, so the only things to decide between them are price and take down.
Alf, Looking back, we've refered to it, but never said it directly.   

[Rastus]

I like the Buckmark just fine.  It's not 100% when it get's dirty...it needs to be sprayed and wiped without disassembly sometimes.  When the face of the bolt get's really dirty I get some misfires...but it's easy to prevent with some spray and a small brush.  The one (that's right....only one) I have sports a longer TacSol barrel.  It otherwise works great and has all of the attributes everyone has spoken of.  I have a Browning Challenger III...kind of a better built precursor that I like which is nearly 40 years old....no problems with it except for the dirt issue.

I do have a Sig Mosquito...the second one actually works and I like it...the first one not so much.  It's smaller size is handy and the ergonomics of the grip most people's hands better.  There is the...will the dang thing actually work issue.

My son has a S&W M&P in 22LR that works flawlessly.  It's a great training aid because of it's size and controls being where they are supposed to be (if you carry an M&P).  I mean really, you gotta have something like you carry so that you can switch off during training to catch flinch and other issues related to recoil.  Once you put the centerfire down range a bit pick up the 22 for a couple of mags and observe and correct anything you are doing wrong.  Then pick up the centerfire again. 

Buy based on what you are going to use it for.  If competition I'd go with...hmmm...maybe the Ruger.  I have a MKII Government model.  I am thinking it goes longer before needing to be sprayed down and wiped before a misfire.  I'd go with the MK IV...which I don't own but I may by the time the Rimfire Challenge rolls around. 

TacSol and TandemKross make parts for the Ruger and the Buckmark.  If you want a plinker or a competition pistol I'd go with one of these...whichever one you are most comfortable with.  If training...I would get something like the S&W M&P in 22, a CZ75 conversion, Glock conversion, 1911 in 22LR, etc.

[tombogan03884]

Yes, that was one thing about the Buckmark, I had to clean the extractor and bolt face every 2 boxes of ammo.
Except with Eley ammo, that greasy crap needed cleaning every 50 shots.

[les snyder]

a friend got his 5.56 suppressor out of jail today, about 8 months... his .22 suppressor was about 6 weeks...

if I were running a business which had individuals sending me a check for two hundred dollars, that had been paper clipped to the top of a form that they themselves had filled out, and all that was needed from me was to access the NICS computer data base, type in their name and identification number...determine yes or no....stick a stamp on the form and mail it back to them..... I think I could hire enough help to do that a little faster....