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WWSD2020
« on: June 18, 2020, 07:48:39 PM »
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Re: WWSD2020
« Reply #1 on: June 18, 2020, 10:23:37 PM »
I follow Ian on Forgotten Weapons religiously... additionally 9 Hole Reviews did a good video on shot dispersion due to heating of pencil barrels that had been stabilized ... I picked an early (Cav Arms IIRC) polymer lower off a prize table at a 3 gun match, but I did not care for the design... I could not reach the mag release without moving my hand from the grip, and it had a funky stock....that is my only practical experience with non-aluminum ARs... I like the traditional 7075-T6 uppers and lowers... I think I understand them, and have built several... you don't need proprietary parts

looking with what WWSD are attempting to accomplish, if I were doing it all over again, from a practical rifle view, and not from a 3 gun game player, I think there is a lot of merit... I think that a very light weight rifle using a traditional 7075-T6 upper and lower, and one of the Ballistic Advantage or Faxon pencil diameter barrels using very small diameter and thin full float hand guards, and minimal stock you could make a top notch quick handling rifle for a lot less than the utilization of a completely polymer but expensive butt stock/lower... I applaud them for their project, I could live with a slightly heavier and cheaper platform

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Re: WWSD2020
« Reply #2 on: June 18, 2020, 10:54:46 PM »
I worked with metal and wood all my life , so maybe I'm biased but I think I'll skip this for a few more years while the technology matures.
They had Aluminum early enough to top the Washington Monument with it but it still wasn't perfected for guns till Stoner came along.
From what I've heard the early Walther P-38's with aluminum frames are notorious for cracking.  They didn't get it right until after the war .
I HATE the idea of "early production".     ;D
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Re: WWSD2020
« Reply #3 on: June 18, 2020, 11:20:33 PM »
Already put money down. 
I always break all the clay pigeons,  some times its even with lead.

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Re: WWSD2020
« Reply #4 on: June 19, 2020, 10:07:05 AM »
TAB... did you go through Browells or are you assembling it yourself,,, and if so, what barrel did you choose?.

I have a couple of uppers sitting around from previous projects... may have to build a pencil barrel upper

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« Reply #5 on: June 19, 2020, 07:10:23 PM »
Brownells. 

I liked some of the ideas they had.  Plus its blessed by gun Jesus

For a gun to carry in the field it seems like it would work well.  In other words a gun that is carried alot and shot a little.
I always break all the clay pigeons,  some times its even with lead.

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Re: WWSD2020
« Reply #6 on: June 20, 2020, 12:00:11 AM »
I follow Ian on Forgotten Weapons religiously... additionally 9 Hole Reviews did a good video on shot dispersion due to heating of pencil barrels that had been stabilized ... I picked an early (Cav Arms IIRC) polymer lower off a prize table at a 3 gun match, but I did not care for the design... I could not reach the mag release without moving my hand from the grip, and it had a funky stock....that is my only practical experience with non-aluminum ARs... I like the traditional 7075-T6 uppers and lowers... I think I understand them, and have built several... you don't need proprietary parts

looking with what WWSD are attempting to accomplish, if I were doing it all over again, from a practical rifle view, and not from a 3 gun game player, I think there is a lot of merit... I think that a very light weight rifle using a traditional 7075-T6 upper and lower, and one of the Ballistic Advantage or Faxon pencil diameter barrels using very small diameter and thin full float hand guards, and minimal stock you could make a top notch quick handling rifle for a lot less than the utilization of a completely polymer but expensive butt stock/lower... I applaud them for their project, I could live with a slightly heavier and cheaper platform

I looked on Brownells for the cheapest AR-15 stripped lower, receiver extension (buffer tube), full-length stock, and pistol grip they had. I came up with $125 plus the cost of a grip screw and washer. I didn't look those up but I'll just say it's somewhere around $130 altogether. The KE Arms KP-15 stripped lower is only $89.99. It's not more expensive, it' 30% less than a traditional lower with separate parts. At least if you buy your parts from Brownells it is.
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Re: WWSD2020
« Reply #7 on: February 26, 2021, 08:07:32 PM »
I follow Ian on Forgotten Weapons religiously... additionally 9 Hole Reviews did a good video on shot dispersion due to heating of pencil barrels that had been stabilized ... I picked an early (Cav Arms IIRC) polymer lower off a prize table at a 3 gun match, but I did not care for the design... I could not reach the mag release without moving my hand from the grip, and it had a funky stock....that is my only practical experience with non-aluminum ARs... I like the traditional 7075-T6 uppers and lowers... I think I understand them, and have built several... you don't need proprietary parts

looking with what WWSD are attempting to accomplish, if I were doing it all over again, from a practical rifle view, and not from a 3 gun game player, I think there is a lot of merit... I think that a very light weight rifle using a traditional 7075-T6 upper and lower, and one of the Ballistic Advantage or Faxon pencil diameter barrels using very small diameter and thin full float hand guards, and minimal stock you could make a top notch quick handling rifle for a lot less than the utilization of a completely polymer but expensive butt stock/lower... I applaud them for their project, I could live with a slightly heavier and cheaper platform

I'm looking for the posts comparing 300 Blk pistol barrel lengths, but this caught my eye.
What I think they are TRULY going for with the full polymer is to be ready when printing technology catches up.
They will be pre positioned like Maxim, or Glock to fully benefit from the next advances.
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Re: WWSD2020
« Reply #8 on: March 06, 2021, 12:21:48 PM »
Its out
I always break all the clay pigeons,  some times its even with lead.

 

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