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Re: Is .40 S&W dead 💀
« Reply #20 on: October 20, 2020, 01:36:12 PM »
.40SW = Short and Weak
Will work for ammo
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Re: Is .40 S&W dead 💀
« Reply #21 on: October 20, 2020, 04:19:42 PM »
Those of us who bother to look, and since I sell guns now, I look, know that ballistically there is very little gain with the .40 S&W over the 9mm parabelum!

I have sold several.40’s to people who are convinced otherwise but sadly, we don’t really “sell” guns at Cabela’s, we merely do the paperwork to finalize the transaction.

I prefer talking to women in that regard if they don’t have some dipstick husband or boyfriend or if they do,  they tell him to go play in archery for a bit!  LOL

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Re: Is .40 S&W dead 💀
« Reply #22 on: October 22, 2020, 05:12:14 PM »
I also have a couple of guns in .357. Sig. I don’t shoot them so much as keep them for they’re oddity. It slaps steel hard and is fun to shoot at longer ranges. What was the point of this cartridge?
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Re: Is .40 S&W dead 💀
« Reply #23 on: October 22, 2020, 05:38:24 PM »
. What was the point of this cartridge?

God only knows, It's a Swiss thing.   Like their rifles.      ;D
Could say the same thing about the rounded off sorta saw thing on their knives. WHY ?    ;D
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Re: Is .40 S&W dead 💀
« Reply #24 on: October 22, 2020, 05:55:17 PM »
........ What was the point of this cartridge?

Originally, it was an attempt to introduce .357 Magnum power into an auto pistol. The problem is, just like the 10 MM, it's been downloaded by the ammo manufacturers to well below it's original ballistics. Blame the lawyers because it's happening across the board. Factory Weatherby ammo is pathetic these days, compared to what was loaded by Weatherby in the 60's. Same with the .44 Magnum, and several others.
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Re: Is .40 S&W dead 💀
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Re: Is .40 S&W dead 💀
« Reply #25 on: October 23, 2020, 09:21:45 AM »
It's pointless to introduce new calibers or systems unless it is enough better to justify the expense of conversion.
A civilian here and there will buy anything any one else will sell, even if just for the novelty of it.
But services and agencies are considering their existing infrastructure, part's, mag's, armorer training, etc.
Look at the Johnson rifle.
Except for the bayonet issue it was just as good as the M-1.
But the Gov already had stock piles of Garand parts, training manuals, and clipped ammo, none of which was any use to the Johnson which would have required it's own versions of these things.
Semi auto pistols are another example, until they started offering significantly more rounds, not just 1 or 2 PD's found it more practical to just stick with revolvers.
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Re: Is .40 S&W dead 💀
« Reply #26 on: October 23, 2020, 09:26:18 AM »
I was just noting, this thread has actually been staying on topic.
Ya'll feeling OK ?
Or is it just the fun of bad mouthing all the cult calibers ?
I have to say, it DOES make a fun change from 9 vs 45.     ;D
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Re: Is .40 S&W dead 💀
« Reply #27 on: October 23, 2020, 09:36:48 AM »
I can confirm that people will but just about anything for no other reason than “because”!

I sold a kid a black powder pepper box repop after trying to explain (with a lot of associates opinions) that it was probably LESS accurate than a rock outside of a few feet!

He was only 18 so he couldn’t buy powder or primer either!

He bought it anyway!

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Re: Is .40 S&W dead 💀
« Reply #28 on: October 23, 2020, 09:53:40 AM »
I can confirm that people will but just about anything for no other reason than “because”!

Agree. Look at all of these Winchester, "short fat wonder" cartridges. Along with the Remington SAUM's, (short action ultra Magnum's). Most are either obsolete, or else are very difficult to find ammo and brass for. None of them delivered anything ballistically that their long action counterparts have been doing for decades. The .300 Winchester Magnum has been around since 1963, and still performs just as well as the day it was introduced. It was just all of sudden, "out of style" to have a cartridge with a belt on it. That lasted 15 minutes.

This whole deal about having a short powder column increasing accuracy may be provable on paper, or in a lab. But it doesn't matter when you're hunting and shooting from field positions anyway. Some of these cartridges, like the .223 WSSM bordered on the ridiculous. They were of such large diameter, and so short, they fed like a bowling ball through a garden hose. Not to mention it burned out barrels in as little as 400 rounds on some rifles. You can buy many of these calibers for pennies on the dollar today...... Assuming you can even find them.

Pistol rounds are much the same. Remember the .45 GAP? Another "solution" to a problem that never existed. I see ammo for it once and a while, but it's expensive compared to plain .45 ACP Ball. Then there was the .32 H&R Magnum, and a slew of others that grew out of the 80's and 90's. All are slowly fading away.     
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Re: Is .40 S&W dead 💀
« Reply #29 on: October 23, 2020, 10:35:54 AM »
I was just noting, this thread has actually been staying on topic.
Ya'll feeling OK ?

So how about the 6mm ARC.  Destined to stick around?   
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