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Big Frank

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Re: Veteran's Day
« Reply #10 on: November 15, 2020, 04:41:53 PM »
Okay. Here's one that's not so boastful.

ETA: Here's my "business card". ;) My MOS AKA JOB.
""It may be laid down as a primary position, and the basis of our system, that every Citizen who enjoys the protection of a free Government, owes not only a proportion of his property, but even his personal services to the defence of it, and consequently that the Citizens of America (with a few legal and official exceptions) from 18 to 50 Years of Age should be borne on the Militia Rolls, provided with uniform Arms, and so far accustomed to the use of them, that the Total strength of the Country might be called forth at a Short Notice on any very interesting Emergency." - George Washington. Letter to Alexander Hamilton, Friday, May 02, 1783

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Re: Veteran's Day
« Reply #11 on: November 15, 2020, 07:15:18 PM »
To bad the missiles and guns weren't pointing the other way where our real enemies were.
We had to fill the post war vacuum in Europe, but the real enemy was right here among us.

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Re: Veteran's Day
« Reply #12 on: November 16, 2020, 10:12:12 AM »
We had to fill the post war vacuum in Europe, but the real enemy was right here among us.

For all his faults, McCarthy tried to tell us.  50 years later, when many of the relevant documents were unclassified, a researcher found that in fact there were people throughout the State Dept and the DOD who weren't just communist sympathizers, but who were on the payroll of Stalin.

The most notable was a military attache to China.  During WWII he would reverse the action reports about Mao's and Kai-shek efforts to fight the Japanese.  He would report that Mao's army bravely battled against the Japanese, suffering many loses and that Kai-shek's people hid in caves like cowards.   IN FACT it was just the opposite.  This influenced congress and the DOD as to where to send military supplies.  It wasn't until closer to the end of WWII another State Dept official realized what was happening, remove the attache and started sending corrected reports.   BUT OF COURSE this was all CLASSIFIED until the late '90's.
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Re: Veteran's Day
« Reply #13 on: November 16, 2020, 04:38:38 PM »
Ann Coulter did  a book on it. I think it was "Treason".
It tells about the Army Venona radio intercepts, the Mcarthy story, and democrat leftism through the 40's and 50's.
She's tends to beat dead horses but it is considerably shorter than any of the other versions of the story I've read, and it's essentially accurate.

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Re: Veteran's Day
« Reply #14 on: November 18, 2020, 07:51:56 AM »
For all his faults, McCarthy tried to tell us.  50 years later, when many of the relevant documents were unclassified, a researcher found that in fact there were people throughout the State Dept and the DOD who weren't just communist sympathizers, but who were on the payroll of Stalin.

The most notable was a military attache to China.  During WWII he would reverse the action reports about Mao's and Kai-shek efforts to fight the Japanese.  He would report that Mao's army bravely battled against the Japanese, suffering many loses and that Kai-shek's people hid in caves like cowards.   IN FACT it was just the opposite.  This influenced congress and the DOD as to where to send military supplies.  It wasn't until closer to the end of WWII another State Dept official realized what was happening, remove the attache and started sending corrected reports.   BUT OF COURSE this was all CLASSIFIED until the late '90's.

This is where we walk a fine line with our freedoms.  Sometimes there is a good reason things are classified, and that they should remain that way for a period.  I don't have the answer for how to handle the following statement within our constitution, but there are things I don't have the right to know.  Sometimes one of our greatest freedoms is also are worst enemy.
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Re: Veteran's Day
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Re: Veteran's Day
« Reply #15 on: November 18, 2020, 08:42:58 AM »
A couple things about the Constitution,
1st, It isn't supposed to be a suicide pact,
 2nd, It was never intended that no one get screwed over, it was designed to screw as few as possible.
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Re: Veteran's Day
« Reply #16 on: November 21, 2020, 05:01:35 PM »
I just saw this a few days ago when I was looking at some Twitter and Face***k pages, plus a lot of places had signs up like the second pic for Veterans Day.
""It may be laid down as a primary position, and the basis of our system, that every Citizen who enjoys the protection of a free Government, owes not only a proportion of his property, but even his personal services to the defence of it, and consequently that the Citizens of America (with a few legal and official exceptions) from 18 to 50 Years of Age should be borne on the Militia Rolls, provided with uniform Arms, and so far accustomed to the use of them, that the Total strength of the Country might be called forth at a Short Notice on any very interesting Emergency." - George Washington. Letter to Alexander Hamilton, Friday, May 02, 1783

THE RIGHT TO BUY WEAPONS IS THE RIGHT TO BE FREE - A. E. van Vogt, The Weapon Shops of Isher

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Re: Veteran's Day
« Reply #17 on: November 23, 2020, 11:50:08 AM »

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MLOjIKt7wOk

Well 93-00 I was a 31C cross trained as a 31U. I think they  re designated those MOSs as 25C and 25U.
00-14 I was 14S, 14m and 14H.
 
I was a 14H Platoon Sergeant when I went in country. Its true what Oliver North says about the kids of today. Some crap heads on TV tarnish what they have did. They are a small group compared to the ones I led. It was a pleasure to lead them. During my first duty station. The Battalion SGM, BN master gun, and my platoon sergeant were Vietnam vets. It was a privilege to have served with them. 
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Re: Veteran's Day
« Reply #18 on: November 23, 2020, 11:58:32 AM »
Citizens sleep peacfully at night knowing that rough men stand ready to do violence on their behalf - George Orwell

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Re: Veteran's Day
« Reply #19 on: November 26, 2020, 02:26:11 AM »
Thanks, Bulldog. There are less and less men being asked to do more and more. I had the privilege to serve with some Vietnam vets too. I saved both of those videos to watch later.
""It may be laid down as a primary position, and the basis of our system, that every Citizen who enjoys the protection of a free Government, owes not only a proportion of his property, but even his personal services to the defence of it, and consequently that the Citizens of America (with a few legal and official exceptions) from 18 to 50 Years of Age should be borne on the Militia Rolls, provided with uniform Arms, and so far accustomed to the use of them, that the Total strength of the Country might be called forth at a Short Notice on any very interesting Emergency." - George Washington. Letter to Alexander Hamilton, Friday, May 02, 1783

THE RIGHT TO BUY WEAPONS IS THE RIGHT TO BE FREE - A. E. van Vogt, The Weapon Shops of Isher

 

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