Reasonable Restrictions on Rights

[MikeBjerum]

Far too often we hear about reasonable restrictions on our Rights are not only legal, but are needed.  We get a comparison to holding firearms to shouting FIRE in a crowded theater.  I point out that shouting fire when there is no fire is illegal, and it is comparable to shooting someone without just cause.

How do we classify Mrs. Pelosi's actions this past week.  Many news sources are reporting that she is calling members through out our government, pushing for Trump to be removed, one way or another, in order to keep him from launching a nuclear war.  She is spreading rumors that he has full power to push a button and launch nuclear warheads.

How close to, or how far over the line, of shouting fire in a crowded theater has Pelosi come?

I know that this will start the thread drifts right off the bat, but what power does Trump hold that the Democrats, and old school Republicans, fear so deep that they are willing to go to these lengths less than two weeks before he leaves office?  Is it possible that Trump could release sealed documents that would sink the ship?  How close is Pres. DJT to being at the top of the "Clinton Hit List"?

[Rastus]

Worse than nuclear warheads (for the swamp creatures) would be to declassify documents showing how much they are really stealing and who they take the money from.

[billt]

.......... How do we classify Mrs. Pelosi's actions this past week.  Many news sources are reporting that she is calling members through out our government, pushing for Trump to be removed, one way or another, in order to keep him from launching a nuclear war.  She is spreading rumors that he has full power to push a button and launch nuclear warheads.

How close to, or how far over the line, of shouting fire in a crowded theater has Pelosi come?

I know that this will start the thread drifts right off the bat, but what power does Trump hold that the Democrats, and old school Republicans, fear so deep that they are willing to go to these lengths less than two weeks before he leaves office?  Is it possible that Trump could release sealed documents that would sink the ship?  How close is Pres. DJT to being at the top of the "Clinton Hit List"?

Pelosi is nuts with fear.... Fear that Trump will expose enough to "nuke" her and a lot of fellow Democrats. Which I hope he in fact does. Will he? Perhaps, but Trump is not as "unhinged" as Pelosi is. Her imagination is her biggest enemy. Always has been. The woman is straight up nuts. Trump doesn't want to take down good people, just to get a few bad one's. Rush Limbaugh say's Trump has both the power and the knowledge to become a one man wrecking crew for the Democratic Party. I believe it.

I believe this is what they feared about him all along. He wouldn't "play ball", and at the same time, he would know too much. A bad combination. They, (she), could even be hoping for a "Epstein End" to him. But that's pretty far fetched for even Pelosi. By the time they could rig something like that, the damage could be done by him releasing any type of classified information that would hurt the Democrats.

And as far as who he might pardon? You would think the Democrats would be cheering that on. After all, aren't they the one's who are all jumping up and down about emptying out the prisons? Trump could give them a good head start by pardoning Paul Manafort, and a few hundred others.

They're simply paralyzed with fear. The dumb shits made it worse by doing what they did. If he releases anything, he could do it through OAN or NewsMax, and every wire service in the country would run with it. Being "banned" off Twitter, and all the rest was simply stupid to do. If it's worth reading or hearing, people will find a way to listen. Even the communists couldn't stop Radio Free Europe. This whole thing is insane. It really is past the time to start dropping some of these idiots. I hope they start with that bitch Pelosi, by tossing her off the bleachers at the Inauguration. Maybe she'll land on Schumer. He's always late to everything.

[MikeBjerum]

A couple months ago, even before the election, there were many sources reporting that they feared that once out of office Trump would release secrets to "our" enemies.  My question is after being in office, what information, factual information, does Trump have available to him concerning the slime the good ole boys (both sides of the aisle) swim in?  Again I wonder out loud, who's life is in more danger at the hands of the power base, Biden or Trump?  The poll starts with Plane Crash in Fog, Sleeping Under a Pillow, or Tangled In a Bed Sheet?

[tombogan03884]

If democrats had anything to worry about you would have done it already.

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[TAB]

Fire in a theater  when it comes too free speech is the same thing as shooting a gun into a crowd.   We already have laws that prevent that.

I can honestly say that my guns have not been used in a crime or fired  in anger.  Well at least while I have owned them.  I do have some milsurp and used guns.  No telling what they did before I owned them.

[PegLeg45]

Fire in a theater  when it comes too free speech is the same thing as shooting a gun into a crowd.   We already have laws that prevent that.

I can honestly say that my guns have not been used in a crime or fired  in anger.  Well at least while I have owned them.  I do have some milsurp and used guns.  No telling what they did before I owned them.

Small nit: we have laws that make it illegal, but laws can not prevent anything. You can still do it, but you'll pay a price for doing it.

That is why I have a hard time with the term Law Enforcement Officer. Cops don't enforce laws, laws enforce themselves based on free will and capability of people....cops mop up after failures to comply.

Compliance and fear of penalty is what keeps civil people in check. We have laws against murder but the written law doesn't stop it.

[Jim Kennedy-ar154me]

As of this morning, President Trump "admitted," some culpability in the "riots". This breaks my heart and I am now wondering if the time to go "gray man" is close? The Democrats, once again, are cramming this crap down our throat and have picked up their speed to warp 8. I, for one, will not give up my ability to defend myself, my family, and (what used to be) by Country.

Do any of you have an opinion on going "underground"?

[billt]

Do any of you have an opinion on going "underground"?

I never really thought too much about it. As it is I keep to myself, and mind my own business. If that ever becomes not enough, then I'll simply shoot the first son of a bitch who tries to take them away from me. After that the cards can fall where they may. I'll deal with them as they're dealt.

[Jim Kennedy-ar154me]

I'll simply shoot the first son of a bitch who tries to take them away from me. After that the cards can fall where they may. I'll deal with them as they're dealt.

I kind of thought that would go without saying here. I also would not let them take them. My wife and I have discussed that and she agrees with that as well. By "gray man" I am talking about not posting or saying anything about firearm ownership unless among GOOD friends. While I am on FB I am in the process of going to MeWe but I intend to be a lot quieter there.