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Re: Annual "TALK LIKE A PIRATE DAY" ARRRRRRRR
« Reply #20 on: September 19, 2008, 01:55:15 PM »
Whenever I hear someone talk like a pirate I wonder, is that an English accent? Portugese? Spanish?

The story about the brass monkey has been emailed around the world for 7 years. Apparently that's when the story was made up. Sorry to burst your bubble but somebody was bound to. http://www.snopes.com/language/stories/brass.asp

I guess I'm just no fun anymore:(

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Re: Annual "TALK LIKE A PIRATE DAY" ARRRRRRRR
« Reply #21 on: September 19, 2008, 01:56:44 PM »
In the heyday of sailing ships, all war ships and many freighters carried iron cannons. Those cannon fired 
round iron cannon balls. It was necessary to keep a good supply near the cannon.
But how to prevent them from rolling about the deck?  The best storage method devised was a square based
pyramid with one ball on top, resting on four resting on nine which rested on sixteen.

Thus, a supply of 30 cannon balls could be stacked in a small area right next to the cannon.
There was only one problem -- how to prevent the bottom layer from sliding/rolling from under the others.
The solution was a metal plate called a "Monkey" with 16 round indentations. But if this plate was made of iron, the iron balls would
quickly rust to it. The solution to the rusting problem was to make "Brass Monkeys." Few landlubbers realize that brass contracts much more and much faster than iron when chilled.
Consequently, when the temperature dropped too far, the brass indentations would shrink so much that the iron cannon balls would come right off the monkey. Thus, it was quite literally, "Cold enough to freeze the balls off a brass monkey!" (And all this time, you thought that was an improper expression, didn't you?) 
 ;D ;)

^^^^ ^^^^^ ^^^^^ Edited the above for readability ^^^^ ^^^^ ^^^^

Sorry matie' that don't hold water arrrrr.

1) Warships don't store cannonballs (or Roundshot) on deck around the clock, day after day on the chance they may go into battle. Space was precious commodity on a sailing ship and decks were kept clear as possible in order to allow room for hundreds of men to prefprm all the tasks necessary for ordinary ships function.

Stacking round shot on deck would also create the danger of their breaking free and rolling lose on deck whenever the ship hit rough seas. Cannonballs were stored elsewhere and only brought out when the decks had been cleared for action.

2) Particularly dilligent gunners would have their crews chip away imperfections on the surface of cannonballs to make them as smoth as possible, in the hopes that they would fly truer. They did not leave shot on deck exposed to the elements where they would rust.

3) When references to "Brass Monkeys" started appearing in prit in the mid 19th century they did not allways mention balls or cold temperature. It was sometimes cold enough to freeze the ears, tail, nose or wiskers off a brass monkey.
Likewise it was sometimes hot wnough to scald the throat or singe the hair off a brass monkey.


Taken from the snopes site.... which I tend to believe much more then some brass ball catcher thingie.....

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Re: Annual "TALK LIKE A PIRATE DAY" ARRRRRRRR
« Reply #22 on: September 19, 2008, 01:59:05 PM »
Whenever I hear someone talk like a pirate I wonder, is that an English accent? Portugese? Spanish?

The story about the brass monkey has been emailed around the world for 7 years. Apparently that's when the story was made up. Sorry to burst your bubble but somebody was bound to. http://www.snopes.com/language/stories/brass.asp

I guess I'm just no fun anymore.  :(

The story predates the internet by several years if not decades. Got to say Snopes comments sound MUCH more accurate.

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Re: Annual "TALK LIKE A PIRATE DAY" ARRRRRRRR
« Reply #23 on: September 19, 2008, 02:05:18 PM »
They had BOYS called Powder Monkeys to go below decks and retrieve the gunpowder and cannonballs. Maybe it got cold enough to freeze the balls off a powder monkey.
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Re: Annual "TALK LIKE A PIRATE DAY" ARRRRRRRR
« Reply #24 on: September 19, 2008, 02:15:59 PM »
TOM, JUMBO,

Ya landlubbers! Ya gots to follow the pirate rule!  If yer gonna spout off on this here thread, matey ya need to parley like a pirate!  (at least add an ARRRRRRRRRR!)
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Re: Annual "TALK LIKE A PIRATE DAY" ARRRRRRRR
« Reply #25 on: September 19, 2008, 03:24:07 PM »
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The story about the brass monkey has been emailed around the world for 7 years. Apparently that's when the story was made up. Sorry to burst your bubble but somebody was bound to
Actually this stuff I've heard and read about long before internet, I lived aboard a sailboat with my folks when I was a kid, in fact did a few years in Mex, central America and had plenty of time to read up on history etc....
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Re: Annual "TALK LIKE A PIRATE DAY" ARRRRRRRR
« Reply #26 on: September 19, 2008, 03:30:20 PM »
Actually this stuff I've heard and read about long before internet, I lived aboard a sailboat with my folks when I was a kid, in fact did a few years in Mex, central America and had plenty of time to read up on history etc....

brass monkey, witches brass bra, they be mighty cold. ;D

deepwater, I heard the story long before the internet also.
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Re: Annual "TALK LIKE A PIRATE DAY" ARRRRRRRR
« Reply #27 on: September 19, 2008, 05:17:10 PM »
BRACE UP YARDS, YOU CACK-HANDED DECK APES

DYIN' IS A DAY WORTH LIVIN' FOR!!!!!


 ;D ;D ;D I heard it somewhere one time. Yeah?
 I dont know I just wanted to be a Pirate too.
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Re: Annual "TALK LIKE A PIRATE DAY" ARRRRRRRR
« Reply #28 on: September 19, 2008, 05:19:22 PM »
So, I'll drop the brass monkey argument. I'm sure that you guys know that there are still pirates operating in the world today. well, my fellow mariners and I are the targets of these $%^# heads. know the worst part? the companies we work for won't allow us to carry weapons onboard. (probably because of all the unstable psychos onboard) ;D So we have to use fire hoses. stop mister or I'll get you wet. what a joke. the real joke is that it's not illegal. some companies supply their vessels with firearms. :P
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Re: Annual "TALK LIKE A PIRATE DAY" ARRRRRRRR
« Reply #29 on: September 19, 2008, 05:20:11 PM »
TOM, JUMBO,

Ya landlubbers! Ya gots to follow the pirate rule!  If yer gonna spout off on this here thread, matey ya need to parley like a pirate!  (at least add an ARRRRRRRRRR!)

You're right Haz. Everyone knows pirates growl instead of talking like regular people. I be corrected. ARRRRRRRRRR!!!
""It may be laid down as a primary position, and the basis of our system, that every Citizen who enjoys the protection of a free Government, owes not only a proportion of his property, but even his personal services to the defence of it, and consequently that the Citizens of America (with a few legal and official exceptions) from 18 to 50 Years of Age should be borne on the Militia Rolls, provided with uniform Arms, and so far accustomed to the use of them, that the Total strength of the Country might be called forth at a Short Notice on any very interesting Emergency." - George Washington. Letter to Alexander Hamilton, Friday, May 02, 1783

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