Minnesota ICE Involved Shooting

[MikeBjerum]

Lemon's Freedom of the Press ended when he entered the narthex. He had no right to interfere with these people exercising their right on private property.

Outside of the possibility he is an "activist judicial appointment," the only excuse I can think of is the government's attempt to go for the FACE Act. However, this would also be an activist jab, because even though it is commonly known and promoted for an abortion protection, it clearly was written to protect religious worship.

[Rastus]

How do you fee about the judge denying an arrest warrant for Don Lemon following his part in disrupting the service by confronting the pastor while he was leading worship?

The founders said that this form of government is totally unsuited to a nation that is not Christian. 

And just why do they require an arrest warrant?  Can the police not arrest someone without a warrant these days...?

[Big Frank]

I never heard of a narthex before. I just learned something, so I guess the day wasn't a total loss.

[Big Frank]

My solution to the problems that so many big cities face these days is simple.

[PegLeg45]

I never heard of a narthex before. I just learned something, so I guess the day wasn't a total loss.

Same here....I always call it a vestibule or foyer......but I'll use it. 


My solution to the mobs is the same as it was for the line of folks coming up through Mexico from Guatemala...... Crop dusters loaded with pepper spray/sauce.

[Sponsor]

[Rastus]

Narthex.  Dang, missed that part until Frank mentioned it.

Nah.  I never heard that word either.  I like it but probably won't remember to use it if the opportunity presents itself. 

[Big Frank]

Same here....I always call it a vestibule or foyer......but I'll use it. 


My solution to the mobs is the same as it was for the line of folks coming up through Mexico from Guatemala...... Crop dusters loaded with pepper spray/sauce.

Pepper sauce would attract more of them. Especially at lunch time.

[alfsauve]

A Vestibule is usually considered a separate room connecting the outer door with an larger space.  Originally a Narthex wasn't a separate room, just a cordoned off space at the back of the church.  Over the years many churches still call the outer entry area a Narthex even though it may more appropriately be called a Vestibule.  Yes, that opens the possibility of having both. 

[Big Frank]

My mom and dad's old house has a vestibule at the front door. Underneath it is a "cubby-hole" in the basement. There's a hole in the wall from knee height up to the ceiling with a thick plywood door on it, and a step-stool in front of it. It's like a root cellar in the house, the same size as the vestibule which has a toy chest built in on one side and a coat closet on the other. The cubby-hole has wooden shelves built in which used to be full of home canned food, with a big bag of potatoes on the floor, and a sack or 2 of onions hanging from the rafters. My mom had a large coffee can full of potatoes under the kitchen sink, and another one full of onions. That was enough to feed the family for a day, or herself for a week or two, and the rest were in the cool, dark, cellar. She had a curtain hanging between the vestibule and living room so cold air wouldn't blow through the house when you opened the front door in winter. Every house should probably have a vestibule at the front door and a mud room in the back. I don't have either one.

[MikeBjerum]

The founders said that this form of government is totally unsuited to a nation that is not Christian. 

And just why do they require an arrest warrant?  Can the police not arrest someone without a warrant these days...?

Had the police arrived during the event, upon complaint by a church official they could have arrested all involved. Charges would later be determined by the church officials working with the charging attorney. Since the event was no longer happening and there were no damages or injuries, they can detain for questioning, but they cannot arrest. I would think that the District Attorney could have asked LE to assist in investigation and questioning and detained him while the DA interviewed. But the DA may be reluctant to try some options because of Lemon being a mouthpiece with agitator followers, and I'll guarantee that as soon as questioning begins Lemon would lawyer up and shut up. Then he would quickly take to the airwaves with his "opinions" which would allow him to admit to the crime without taking on any liability.

However, none of this rambling of thoughts explains why the judge would issue warrants for some leaders but not the one who got in the pastor's face and stopped the worship.