E.P.A. Toughens Standard on Lead Emissions; Change Is the First in 3 Decades

[pops1911]

This headline greated me this morning - does this not affect us at all. Like maybe lead bullets - cost, usage & availability?

So far I have seen no one speaking about this - for or against except the EPA & their cronies. Isn't this really a back door Control measure for ammo. I realize we use other than lead in many cases, but for cheap reloading, it is the average man's (person) choice, especially for Cowboy action, target practice etc.

Where is the outrage for the EPA unilatterally screwing us - are we too distracted with the 'Anointed One' or am I just losing it?!?

[MikeBjerum]

I have been expecting more of this, but thought it would wait till after the elections.  Regardless of how the elections go and how the powers stack up, our largest fear is from the agencies in this bueracracy (my own spelling for overloaded, free wheeling agencies that do what they damn well please to justify their paychecks).  Last month I read that they are going to do away with lead wheel weights used to balance tires.  They claim these things are flying off, being ground up between the tires and the pavement, and lead is becoming arisolized by being kicked up in traffic dry, or in the mist created in rain.

I worked in the automotive industry (gas station, tire shops, auto dealerships and parts store) full and part time from the time I was thirteen till thirty-five.  I can only remember a couple times when a car needed a tire rebalanced because it lost a weight or came in for tire replacement with a missing weight.  I have talked to several friends still in the industry, and many can not remember ever seeing a lost weight situation, and guys in their 60's and 70's can only remember a handful of times each at the most.

EPA is just one of the agencies that will blow something out of proportion and ruin things for all of us.  How do you fight a group like that?

[pops1911]

For what it's worth, I wrote to Bush, Cheney & my Congressmen etc. That ought to do it! 

I just don't understand why nobody cares - this does effect our sport even if not as much as BHo does.

[TAB]

Thats actually not too surprizing.  As of Late they have been changing all of the VOC levels on the federal level.  its why in the last 6-8 weeks several building materials have spiked in price.  Talking with friends of mine in the chemical industry, they basicly have completly redone the entire system.

[tombogan03884]

I have been expecting more of this, but thought it would wait till after the elections.  Regardless of how the elections go and how the powers stack up, our largest fear is from the agencies in this bueracracy (my own spelling for overloaded, free wheeling agencies that do what they damn well please to justify their paychecks).  Last month I read that they are going to do away with lead wheel weights used to balance tires.  They claim these things are flying off, being ground up between the tires and the pavement, and lead is becoming arisolized by being kicked up in traffic dry, or in the mist created in rain.

I worked in the automotive industry (gas station, tire shops, auto dealerships and parts store) full and part time from the time I was thirteen till thirty-five.  I can only remember a couple times when a car needed a tire rebalanced because it lost a weight or came in for tire replacement with a missing weight.  I have talked to several friends still in the industry, and many can not remember ever seeing a lost weight situation, and guys in their 60's and 70's can only remember a handful of times each at the most.

EPA is just one of the agencies that will blow something out of proportion and ruin things for all of us.  How do you fight a group like that?

I don't know or care about what service departments see, I know that since I walk most places I do not go a week without seeing a wheel weight on the side of the road. Now that I think about it I should probably be saving them up to either cash in or supply someone who casts their own bullets.

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[MikeBjerum]

Tom,

If your seeing that many you should be picking them up.  Remember that that one ounce weight is over 400 grains!  I wasn't reloading when I worked in the shops, but in everyone of them there was a guy that took the weights.  We would throw them in five gallon pails, and that was a job to move if they got too full.

[blackwolfe]

I have thought and said for years that when the anti gunners, enviromentalist, and animal rights activist cooridinate their efforts that guns, shooting, and hunting will be finished.
Tom, I ride my bicycle a lot and have for many years, and probably haven't found more than a half dozen wheel weights since I was a kid.  Haven't seen one in years.  Maybe they are all getting ground up in my area.  I can not recall ever losing one off a wheel from one of my cars either.  When I was younger I worked in a real service station and we would rebalance wheels  that had lost weights.  We learned that almost all if not all off these had previously been balanced from the shop down the street that would reuse take off weights that will not stay tight after being removed  and reinstalled a second time.  Many weights now are zinc I' told.

[tombogan03884]

I have thought and said for years that when the anti gunners, enviromentalist, and animal rights activist cooridinate their efforts that guns, shooting, and hunting will be finished.
Tom, I ride my bicycle a lot and have for many years, and probably haven't found more than a half dozen wheel weights since I was a kid.  Haven't seen one in years.  Maybe they are all getting ground up in my area.  I can not recall ever losing one off a wheel from one of my cars either.  When I was younger I worked in a real service station and we would rebalance wheels  that had lost weights.  We learned that almost all if not all off these had previously been balanced from the shop down the street that would reuse take off weights that will not stay tight after being removed  and reinstalled a second time.  Many weights now are zinc I' told.

I don't think I've ever lost one either, but I see them often, I usually think , Ahh it's just one, what will I do with one wheel weight and no wheels.

[TAB]

The stick on ones come off at between 130-140... that is asuming they did a good job installing them in the 1st place... don't aske me how I know.

[Lyly]

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