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Re: How to practice tactical shooting at a range where you can't
« Reply #10 on: October 26, 2008, 04:31:17 PM »
There is one range that has a "No Rapid Fire" policy, however for stance and consistency, I use a blind figure eight.

With a target at a SD distance, (around 15 to 25 ft.) I pick up the weapon from the bench get into my shooting stance, close my eyes and fire one round. Than with eyes still closed, make a small figure 8 motion (keyword: small), recenter and fire one round.

With practice on stance and posture, arm position etc,..., the shot after the first shot are close. With practice they get closer,...

In a low/no light home SD scenario, numerous factors apply, but having the ability to place my pistol on target using form, instead of visual references counts for consistency, and of course practice, practice, practice,..

The other advice works very well, including weak hand shooting, and having the ball and dummy drill works great. Nothing like a "click" when one expects a "bang".

just my .02 cents. Welcome Robin thank you for a good post.

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Re: How to practice tactical shooting at a range where you can't
« Reply #11 on: October 26, 2008, 06:00:47 PM »
Nice post, Robin....very good info.

I printed your post and gave it to my friend that owns a range. He liked your ideas also.

Sometimes you have to compromise. I was a member of a range twenty or so years ago that had a 'no speed shooting' rule as well as no 'pins' or 'steel'. They were real old-school die-hard Bullseye guys.
We compromised and they finally allowed the fast shooting as long as it was on paper targets.
So, a couple of us went to a local pizza joint and bought a few stacks of those round cardboard liners that go under the pizza in the pizza boxes. Cost just a few bucks for a stack of fifty. We bought the 8" and 10". We cut a saw kerf down the length of an 8' 2x4 and the targets would stand up on edge.
Worked like a charm for simulated steel and they were already white and could be repaired with tape during a session.

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Re: How to practice tactical shooting at a range where you can't
« Reply #12 on: October 28, 2008, 03:15:26 PM »
Thanks for all the compliments. While I am a newbie here, I wasn't born yesterday. :D Actually, I've been online since ARPANET days back in '85 so I've seen a fair number of forums over the years. Thanks for welcoming me here.

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Re: How to practice tactical shooting at a range where you can't
« Reply #13 on: October 28, 2008, 08:45:20 PM »
Thanks for all the compliments. While I am a newbie here, I wasn't born yesterday. :D Actually, I've been online since ARPANET days back in '85 so I've seen a fair number of forums over the years. Thanks for welcoming me here.

Are you an old fart then??............ ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D

Just kidding with you.............. ;D
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Re: How to practice tactical shooting at a range where you can't
« Reply #14 on: October 28, 2008, 11:01:31 PM »
Yes, I am an old fart. I've been saying that since college.

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Re: How to practice tactical shooting at a range where you can't
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Re: How to practice tactical shooting at a range where you can't
« Reply #15 on: October 29, 2008, 06:43:02 AM »
Old fart...then you must remember dialing up "Bullentin Boards".
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Re: How to practice tactical shooting at a range where you can't
« Reply #16 on: November 01, 2008, 06:00:43 PM »
Good post!

One of the things we're trying to do with the new show, THE BEST DEFENSE, is to show ways to practice the techniques we're recommending on square ranges.

BTW, I got thrown off a Denver range a few years back for "rapid fire" although I thought I was going slow enough...the Fudds are with us always...

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Re: How to practice tactical shooting at a range where you can't
« Reply #17 on: December 22, 2008, 01:53:20 PM »
If you have five or six friends who want to practice defensive shooting techniques, you could approach a few of your local range operators until you find one who will let you rent an entire range bay for a few hours.  I’ve done this at several different ranges in my local area over the years, and am currently running a monthly practice group at one of them.

Having a private range bay gives us a lot more latitude in setting up practice drills than we’d have on any of the local public ranges.
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Re: How to practice tactical shooting at a range where you can't
« Reply #18 on: December 23, 2008, 08:20:41 PM »
Great topic and good advice. Of course, you should be sure that your "modifications" are consistent with your actual intended actions during a fight. IOW, for example,  if you don't have a "low ready", don't invent one (adding inconcistency) for the sake of a problematic range policy. For students who use a high-compressed ready who don't have appropriate ranges to practice on, I recommend practicing presentation to the ready DRY. Live fire First Shots can be practiced realistically without violating range rules from the HC-ready (extend, touch, press).
The real problem comes from learning to manage recoil intuitively and efficiently for follow-up shots and extended strings of fire. Obviously, "rapid fire" with airsoft or any other non-live round isn't going to really count. This is an important area of defensive shooting training that warrants seeking out a proper range, if reasonably possible.

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(jaybet, I was living in New Jersey when I was dialing up BBS's..... if I could remember the names, we could exchange notes!)

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Re: How to practice tactical shooting at a range where you can't
« Reply #19 on: December 23, 2008, 08:57:02 PM »
(jaybet, I was living in New Jersey when I was dialing up BBS's..... if I could remember the names, we could exchange notes!)

As long as you guys brought up dial-up BBS', I'm going to point out that I knew and worked with the guys who literally invented the BBS' - Randy Suess (hardware guy) and Ward Christenson (software - invented the Modem7 and Xmodem protocols) - both part of the Chicago Area Computer Hobbiest Exchange (CACHE). I was one of the founders and edited the newsleter for a couple of years.

Damn - I'm old!

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