Bore Cleaning Help

[Bill Stryker]

Tom!
The sacred M16 rusts? Surely you jest! The M16 was supposed to be the miracle rifle that did not need maintenance. Or so McNamara's whiz kids told us. They would not have lied to us would they? They also told us the M16 did not need chrome chambers to prevent rust and jams. They were so smart.

[tombogan03884]

Do I detect a small amount of sarcasm 

[Bill Stryker]

Not a small amount--A large amount. I think that the DOD of that era under McNamara was dishonest if not corrupt. And I think it started right at the top with Kennedy and Johnson. And the country still has not recovered IMO.

[tombogan03884]

I think there was more liberal stupidity than corruption at DOD, but basically I agree.

[TSB]

Not a small amount--A large amount. I think that the DOD of that era under McNamara was dishonest if not corrupt. And I think it started right at the top with Kennedy and Johnson. And the country still has not recovered IMO.

McNamara was probably responsible for dozens if not hundereds of dead American GI's as a result of the early release of the M16 in the 60's.  He definately influenced the contract, pressured the Pentagon and fed the nucklehead Kennedy brothers a line of crap!  I seem to recall a pretty serious problem with the early ammunition for the rifle as well and they needed constant maintenance.  The man should have spent time in Federal Prison!  JMO...Any of you Marines or Army fellas have any comments, I'd be glad to hear your views on the subject!

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[tombogan03884]

.223 is fun .30 is effective 

[Bill Stryker]

Not surprisingly I agree with Tom on this. But I personally prefer 7mm.

[TSB]

We may have highjacked this thread, I apologize.

I read sometime back that for every North Vietnamese casualty, there were approximatly 100,000 rounds of ammunition expended by U.S. troops...

[tombogan03884]

We may have highjacked this thread, I apologize.

I read sometime back that for every North Vietnamese casualty, there were approximatly 100,000 rounds of ammunition expended by U.S. troops...

Yes, and a lot of those "rounds" were 8 inches in diameter, in other words the "Weight of Iron" to kill one VC or NVA was about the same as his home town.

[HAWKFISH]

.223 is fun .30 is effective 

YEP..   Interesting reading with this topic and bore cleaning.