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Re: 1911 Info
« Reply #40 on: October 29, 2011, 02:35:56 PM »
Quote from: FullAuto on March 13, 2009, 11:19:58 PM
PegLeg,
This stuff is timely. And I have a question for you and the other 1911 aficionados. I have Springfield Operator (full-size frame). If I wanted to convert from a Government model to a Commander model, what would I need to change? I know the obvious stuff like barrel, slide, and mainspring but what else do I need to consider?

As one can tell, I'm not really versed on the upgrades and optional enhancements that can be done to one but I would appreciate any suggestions.

Thanks!

If you look at a Springfield Champion Operator I'm almost certain it uses the same length frame as the full sized railed model (TRP frame actually). It gives it more of the monolithic frame look. It makes the dust cover go nearly to the end of the pistol. I personally like the look of it. There's no reason you can't build up a commander length top end and put it on your current frame. I believe if you go with a 4" top end it will give you a full monolithic look and a 4.25" frame will come up, obviously, a .25" short of being full length.
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Re: 1911 Info
« Reply #41 on: October 29, 2011, 03:13:48 PM »
Quote from: Magoo541 on October 29, 2011, 01:44:40 PM
I may have to order some parts for my son's PT1911 if he comes down for Christmas.  That would be a cool father/son project.  It looks like a hammer, trigger, and sights would be a good start, any suggestions?

Hard to go wrong with parts from makers like Ed Brown, Cylinder & Slide, EGW etc. I would advise to go with forged parts and if you get a hammer, then pop for a kit with all the group parts, i.e. hammer, sear, disconnector. When using a "drop-in" kit from reputable manufacturers, very little final fitting (if any) is needed.

Both Brownells and Midway USA carry a fine selection of 1911 parts and most makers sell then directly. Both have great technical pages and you can also call them with questions and they can help you with selection ideas.

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Re: 1911 Info
« Reply #42 on: August 02, 2013, 03:51:22 PM »
Here is a link to Brownell's slide-to-frame fit chart. It can be handy when fitting a slide to a frame, but I printed several off and use them in my data book for tracking wear. Every so often when cleaning, I will grab the calipers and do some quick measuring and this page comes in handy for that.

http://www.brownells.com/userdocs/learn/1911framemeasurements.pdf

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Re: 1911 Info
« Reply #43 on: August 02, 2013, 07:53:26 PM »
Handy.  Any info on what is good/better/best, or is it just to track wear?

And, not to be too pedant, shouldn't that second line be B-E?  Otherwise you're getting a negative number.
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Re: 1911 Info
« Reply #44 on: August 02, 2013, 10:25:52 PM »
I wish I had a way to measure mine. I have an alloy frame Para that rattles like a maraca. I think most of the wear is on the frame.

P.S. It's about 25 years old and has been shot a lot.
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Re: 1911 Info
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Re: 1911 Info
« Reply #45 on: August 03, 2013, 01:42:51 PM »
Quote from: jumbofrank on August 02, 2013, 10:25:52 PM
I wish I had a way to measure mine. I have an alloy frame Para that rattles like a maraca. I think most of the wear is on the frame.

P.S. It's about 25 years old and has been shot a lot.

This is all you need...I think   


http://www.amazon.com/Inch-Digital-Caliper-Extra-Battery/dp/B0002JFMIO/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&qid=1375554882&sr=8-2&keywords=digital+calliper

Not to expensive and should be adequate for most work.
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Re: 1911 Info
« Reply #46 on: August 03, 2013, 01:47:53 PM »
I thought all calipers were expensive. Boy was I wrong. Too bad they're made in China. 
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Re: 1911 Info
« Reply #47 on: August 03, 2013, 02:28:19 PM »
Quote from: jumbofrank on August 03, 2013, 01:47:53 PM
I thought all calipers were expensive. Boy was I wrong. Too bad they're made in China. 

So are a lot of more expensive ones Frank!  Starrett has caved in and builds their lesser priced models in Asia now too.  I suspect Browne and Sharp have as well.

I make my living by the .001".  I still trust Starrett even though some are made overseas.  Mititoyo makes a good instrument for a decent price.  Japanese manufactured I think.
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Re: 1911 Info
« Reply #48 on: August 03, 2013, 03:54:15 PM »
Yes Tim, Mitatoyo is made in Japan.
They are also about the best you compromise you will find between price and quality.
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Re: 1911 Info
« Reply #49 on: August 03, 2013, 04:22:02 PM »
We also have a 100K Browne and Sharpe CMM at the shop!

Send me your frames and I'll have my buddy Dan measure them up to .000000001"!

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