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Re: 1911 Info
« Reply #10 on: February 28, 2009, 06:37:59 PM »
Another interesting 1911 article....this time on mainspring housings.



Mainspring Housing Replacement


http://www.brownells.com/aspx/NS/GunTech/NewsletterArchive.aspx?p=0&t=1&i=1333&mc_ID=2022
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Re: 1911 Info
« Reply #11 on: March 12, 2009, 07:17:16 PM »
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Re: 1911 Info
« Reply #12 on: March 13, 2009, 11:19:58 PM »
PegLeg,
This stuff is timely. And I have a question for you and the other 1911 aficionados. I have Springfield Operator (full-size frame). If I wanted to convert from a Government model to a Commander model, what would I need to change? I know the obvious stuff like barrel, slide, and mainspring but what else do I need to consider?

As one can tell, I'm not really versed on the upgrades and optional enhancements that can be done to one but I would appreciate any suggestions.

Thanks!
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Re: 1911 Info
« Reply #13 on: March 14, 2009, 09:48:40 AM »
Doesn't the Commander have a shorter frame ? I'm thinking the area in front of the trigger guard is shorter on the Commander so you might as well buy another pistol as it is not worth the investment to convert.
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Re: 1911 Info
« Reply #14 on: March 14, 2009, 10:12:43 AM »
Unfortunately, I am one of those "need to show me" one time guy.   I "tweaked" my S&W full-size 1911, via a pro, trigger job, ambi safety installed (lefty), feed ramp &  mag well "love", hammer spring, and a few other things.

It really is my favorite.  ;D

(well, they are all my favorite, BUT this one is really  my favorite. ::)

Knowing my luck, the dis-assembly would be NO problem, it's that RE-assembly.  If my gunsmith wouldn't have been so busy, I probably could have watched him go on mine, but I had to get to work so I could pay the man.

SO, routine field-strips for me, but I want to give it a try with someone at a table or bench that can do it in his/her sleep, and has a little patience.

Like that other video of the young girl that can take down an AR + re-assemble it, in like 30 seconds or less,.... :o

Since I was posting about it,....
some Sat. gun porn,. 8)








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Re: 1911 Info
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Re: 1911 Info
« Reply #15 on: March 14, 2009, 10:21:35 AM »
NICE !
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Re: 1911 Info
« Reply #16 on: March 14, 2009, 12:03:27 PM »
Quote from: tombogan03884 on March 14, 2009, 09:48:40 AM
Doesn't the Commander have a shorter frame?

Yes, the frame is fractionaly shorter but of the same height.  A Commander size frame carries a standard magazine with 3/4" shorter barrel and shortened dust cover/forward portion in front of trigger guard.

Kimber and Wilson use 4" barrels in their Commander frames.  Para uses 4-1/4 as does Colt and Springfield.  I think S&W does as well.
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Re: 1911 Info
« Reply #17 on: March 14, 2009, 12:17:33 PM »
Quote from: FullAuto on March 13, 2009, 11:19:58 PM
PegLeg,
This stuff is timely. And I have a question for you and the other 1911 aficionados. I have Springfield Operator (full-size frame). If I wanted to convert from a Government model to a Commander model, what would I need to change? I know the obvious stuff like barrel, slide, and mainspring but what else do I need to consider?

As one can tell, I'm not really versed on the upgrades and optional enhancements that can be done to one but I would appreciate any suggestions.

Thanks!

I can't tell you about every manufacturer (some use different specs in some areas than the original design) but on most I've seen, a Gov't model frame is the same as a Commander frame, except maybe on the front end. I know Colt uses the same frame for both and I have swapped mine several times. Only the Officers model uses the smaller frame (someone once told me a gov't slide would work on an officers frame but there would be a big gap up front at the dust cover, but I don't have an officers model to try).

Before I went and spent money on the parts, I would call the manufacturer and ask them.... just in case.


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Re: 1911 Info
« Reply #18 on: March 14, 2009, 01:29:43 PM »
OK. You made me go to the safe.

I used a para p-14 and a p-12.  On the p-12, the dust cover and grip are about 1/4" shorter.
BOTH slides interchanged (looked goofy but it worked). The differance being there was a gap between
the slide and frame on the p-12.  I can't imagine this would affect functioning unless somehow the
recoil spring got pinched.  So, you can take a shorter slide and put it in the larger frame and the only thing
is the dust cover runs farther up the slide but not to the end.  Changing the length on the grip would be
the problem.
I'm not sure why you would want to do this, just buy another gun. ;)

In the midst of tearing things apart, I found a broken ejector on my p-14. Thanks.

P.S. I have to go talk my wife out of the bedroom. She ran to hide when I told her the people in the
computer told me to go look at my guns. ;D
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Re: 1911 Info
« Reply #19 on: March 14, 2009, 01:38:38 PM »
Peg, Thank you for that post, I was not sure about that.

Junkie, Tell the wife there really are other people on the computer, it's when the voices in your HEAD tell you to do things that she needs to start worrying  ;D
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