8:05pm pacific vote called for obama 8:25 mcain gives up

[ronlday]

how did they count the votes so fast. the polls didnt close till 8:00 pm pacific in califoria. but yet at 8:05 the news said obama won. then at 8:25pm pacific mc cain gives his capitualion speach. how could they realy have counted anough votes to make it officle that he won? why should i have voted if befor my vote is even counted it is over?
ron l day

[MikeBjerum]

how did they count the votes so fast. the polls didnt close till 8:00 pm pacific in califoria. but yet at 8:05 the news said obama won. then at 8:25pm pacific mc cain gives his capitualion speach. how could they realy have counted anough votes to make it officle that he won? why should i have voted if befor my vote is even counted it is over?
ron l day

8:05 ... it was more like 8:00:30 on the network I had on.  Was lining up an organist and damn near dropped the phone 

As many have pointed out, it looks like an wild landslide, but look at the popular vote.  All we have left is that the exit pollsters were lied to, and that as the last 80% of the majority of the Country is actually counted there will be that 2% or 3% swing that would switch the outcome.

[PegLeg45]

It's the 270 electoral votes needed to win.
BHO won most of the states with the largest allotment of electoral votes...... the popular vote don't really count for much.
It really sucks this way don't it?

[Hazcat]

Yes and no.  I think we should go to 'apportioned" electoral votes.

[ronlday]

It's the 270 electoral votes needed to win.
BHO won most of the states with the largest allotment of electoral votes...... the popular vote don't really count for much.
It really sucks this way don't it?

but california has 55 electoral votes, and texas 34. those two states have the highst number of electoral votes. and i dont there popular votes could have been counted yet. i dont see how california votes could have been taken from the polls and to the counting room in less then five minuts.
ron l day

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[Fatman]

Yes and no.  I think we should go to 'apportioned" electoral votes.

Naw, Haz. That's the same as the popular vote, but scaled down to electoral college numbers. The electoral college prevents large cities (massive population, generally liberals now) from basically running the Fed government.  If we had just a popular vote for president, the rural states lose all power. And it is much easier to commit some type of fraud on a national basis on a popular vote than it is on an electoral college system. Oh, and with the new generation of history ignorant, 'what can you promise me and how fast can you give it to me' voters, we'd never see a republican in office. Members of the Electoral College can vote independently of their states popular vote. They are under no obligation to follow the popular vote.

The 17th Amendment was the start of the decline of the United States of America in favor of just plain America. Why the states ratified this abortion of states rights is beyond me. No longer did the individual state decide who would best look out for that state's interests inside Fedzilla, but opened the Senate up to the whim of the Great Unwashed. For chrissake, I can't tell you how many people I talked to that were totally clueless about the basics of our governmental system, let alone any specifics... and they vote.

The original Constitution and the Bill of Rights are chock full of safeties that would prevent the establishment of what would effectively become a dictatorship, but we are short-circuiting those one by one.

 Sometimes we lose track of exactly how brilliant the Founders were. 

[SlideRacker]

This is my 2 cents on electoral votes......they are there because it is easier to bye 270 vote than 100 million. They are there because we the people are too stupid to choose our own leader. They are there to make sure the lobby groups with big money are jilted out of there hard cash by a public with an opinion. I hope none of you are so blind as to think that this government isn't baught and paid for. No, Sarah there is no Santa Clause, and there is no meaning to your vote when it comes to who sits in the white house. That's the cold hard truth. The race is called before the vote is counted because.......guess what.......it will not matter. Wake up and smell the coffee. If you want the country back, and if you want to matter as a vote or anthing other than a consumer, pick up arms and take it back. I i go blazen into congress or the white house, I would be one of the "crazy"  people we read about, but we go as 40 million pissed off people who want our nation back........we might make a dent..................Call me radical, I am an American and I am free. I want to stay that way!

[lefty60]

The electorial colledge (can't spell when upset ) has been abused for many years! But worse than that this election is proof positive that advertising can sell anything or anyone.

It would appear to me that most people are too lazy to check facts. If it is on TV it must be true!

In my opinion the out come of this election was a result of media hype and high dollar advertising!!!!!!

Now what next? How about more support for the NRA and any other pro 2nd amendment organizations. We lost a major battle, not the war!