you wonder why ammo and guns are going up.

[Rastus]

Hate to rub this in...but the new AR-15 and AR-10 I picked up after the election did not have the prices jacked up.  Just goes to show that if you can find a reputable arms merchant in town you need to patronize him.  The guys that were a few bucks cheaper on a gun....jacked up the price a bunch.  A friend asked a store here in Tulsa to hold an M&P AR for him....when he got there it was $300 more than when he called them just a few hours before.  They eventually honored the price...but only after he got rude and after they tried to switch a lesser gun on him.

[HAWKFISH]

Well, maybe you're right about TAB, but ammo was skyrocketing before Obama was the candidate....remember?

This buying frenzy is due to his election and his choices of obviously gun grabbing helpers. But the ammo was going up anyway because of (you may recall all of this) the prices of metals going through the roof, the WARS sucking up production, etc. etc.
The cost of the guns are going up because they can't keep them on the shelves. Sorry...that is "supply and demand".

I disagree. If John McCain would have been elected, there wouldn't have been this mad dash to get AR's, AK's, handguns, and ammo over this last week. It didn't have anything to do with the supply. There was plenty. Everyone had guns and magazines for sell. Obama gets elected and everything sells out in a hurry. Some of these gun dealers are price-gouging. This give some people a reason to say, "Oh see that's supply and demand.. the demand is so high we sell out and have to raise the price, because it's supply and demand." No, it's because of Obama and people trying to make a buck. Obama made the price go up, not the normal "supply and demand" of gun sales in general. Roll back the clock a week and look at your supply and demand.. and then look what happened every day since.

[deepwater]

Some of these gun dealers are price-gouging

I have to agree with this.. but then some of these dealers are running low because they did not plan for this amount of sales. the guns are probably available to them, but it will take time because of - supply and demand- maybe not the reason the prices have gone up, but if you can raise the price when the demand is up (gouging) then you can make more $ and blame it on lack of supply. I bet if you go to a dealer that has no ARs he can get it, tomorrow, for a price.. but then isn't this the way the stock market works? people want something they'll pay more for it, and in a panic they'll sell cheap.

[mnshooter]

I've always enjoyed this forum holding a higher standard regarding personal attacks and crude language. 
Sure I know all the words; but profanity is best reserved for those who can't understand anything else.
I don't consider our members to be in this catagory.

[Ruger-55]

  O K guys you need to chill out .. I know we have our opinons , but please lets keep it civil . By leting someone get your goat just gives them more ammo ....

[Sponsor]

[Teresa Heilevang]

Breathe everyone.. nice and easy... breathe innnnnnn....breathe ouuuuttttt..

There...... 

Now I am usually the first one to jump on a debating bandwagon.... but...someone has to stay calm here..  ..........

I think it is actually 99% of B-HO..but that also inadvertently puts a demand on the supply of the guns. That's just a no brainier logical fact.
Brand new guns are, in fact the ones that are getting tight to get. And AW's are just flying out the door faster than bumblebees on cocaine. The manufacturers didn't look and plan for this enough. One company told us that they have had one million orders/sales already this year.  A huge part of that has happened in the last 3 months. They NEVER EVER thought it would be this frantic. But it is.. and it isn't slowing down. Same on ammo.

Derek is having record breaking HUGE HUGE HUGE sales and has 100 auctions up now and is working on putting 100 more up before the weekend. He is having people drive from Ks City and other cities to see what he has and they are buying on the spot before he even gets them logged in. ..he isn't having any trouble getting guns ..but they are going out faster than he can keep up. **Note**   He is not gouging or changing prices at all from what he  normally does business as..
  ( He comes from good honest stock  )
 I ask him what he thought and he said EVERYONE is buying because of Obama. That everyone he talks to is scrambling because of the Democrats and Obama..
 He had 147 phone calls on Monday and averages about 80-100 every day since the Obaminator was elected.

Guess that tells you something.

[rojawe]

it seems like the gun owners that voted for Obama don't trust him, now that's funny. If they voted for him there should be no rush to buy. Right  something wrong with this picture    Vote for Obama and run to buy everything before he can act on the 2nd amendment now that is PURE BS. You wanted change but you don't trust him on gun control what else don't you trust, maybe you should have thought before you voted for him

[jaybet]

Poor old TAB... I just threw that, "Maybe you're right about TAB" thing in because someone is always bagging on him. Joke. Not very funny, but....joke.

Supply and demand: I think we're confusing mechansims with causes. Changes to the balance of supply and demand are CAUSED by things, in this case, the election of BHO. For whatever reason (BHO) demand has changed...it has increased 100 fold. THAT has affected the supply by making guns and ammo more scarce. When there's a giant demand for scarce goods, the price goes up and that is not necessarily price gouging, although there are probably a few dealers up to no good.

So that's supply and demand working. Now when the manufacturers tool up and start making 200% more guns and ammo and everyone spends all their money there will be a lower demand and a large backup supply. If they're not selling the price will go down, and that is not necessarily just generosity (the opposite of price gouging), it's just Supply and Demand

We can and should blame the election of BHO for what is happening, but it's definitely supply and demand. When a huge storm ruins the orange harvest and there's not enough orange juice for the demand, guess what? The price goes up.

We can screech all we want about BHO...it's the panic buying that's causing shortages.

[wisconsin]

I'm just curious Did this same thing happen at any time when the clintons were in office or after his relection. I don't seem to remember this kind of buying frenzy

[PegLeg45]

I'm just curious Did this same thing happen at any time when the clintons were in office or after his relection. I don't seem to remember this kind of buying frenzy

It did in my home town.
I had just bought a used Mini-14 for $275 and the next week they were selling for twice that. AR's  and AK's and SKS's too.
The prices did ease back down after a while, though never to what they were.

There are too many contributing factors at play to point the finger at any one cause.
BHO is/was the trigger, but supply and demand, fear-mongering, and outright greed are also deeply involved.