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Ramblings by the Cat
« on: November 11, 2008, 10:26:08 PM »
Did anyone watch "This is the Army" tonight?

The last number is about "how we're going to finish it this time" as opposed to WWI.  Well as we all know we did not finish it.  As I remember Patton (and others) said we should take out "Uncle Joe" as well and really get it done.

As usual the politicians won out and we then had Korea, The 'Cold War' and Viet Nam.  Now I am one that does believe that civilians should make the final decisions otherwise we have a military rule, "We serve at the counties pleasure".  BUT! Why don't they ever listen to those that have "been there, done that"?  I am TIRED of seeing our BEST taking the same ground again and again at great personal cost, only to give it back.

We need to draw a line and say "This far and NO MORE" and that line is way to close to home now.  If we don't point it out now it will pass us by and our sons and daughters will have to fight to regain what WE should never have given up.

The time is now, this is the place.  FIGHT, make your voice heard.  Join the NRA, get your CCW, let them KNOW that patriots still exist and that they ignore and dismiss us at their peril.
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Re: Ramblings by the Cat
« Reply #1 on: November 12, 2008, 01:59:11 AM »
Did anyone watch "This is the Army" tonight?

The last number is about "how we're going to finish it this time" as opposed to WWI.  Well as we all know we did not finish it.  As I remember Patton (and others) said we should take out "Uncle Joe" as well and really get it done.

As usual the politicians won out and we then had Korea, The 'Cold War' and Viet Nam.  Now I am one that does believe that civilians should make the final decisions otherwise we have a military rule, "We serve at the counties pleasure".  BUT! Why don't they ever listen to those that have "been there, done that"?  I am TIRED of seeing our BEST taking the same ground again and again at great personal cost, only to give it back.

We need to draw a line and say "This far and NO MORE" and that line is way to close to home now.  If we don't point it out now it will pass us by and our sons and daughters will have to fight to regain what WE should never have given up.

The time is now, this is the place.  FIGHT, make your voice heard.  Join the NRA, get your CCW, let them KNOW that patriots still exist and that they ignore and dismiss us at their peril.

Civilians should NOT have any say in conducting wars, They meddle to much in what they do not understand and have lengthened, and screwed up every war they have gotten us into (usually totally unprepared due to under funding of the military) since 1812. The interference from "Civilians " should end right after the President and Congress say, "Go kick that countries a$$, call us when they surrender".

Well it's Tommy this, and Tommy that, and "Chuck him out, the brute". But it's saviour of his country when the guns begin to shoot.
And it's Tommy this, and Tommy that, and anything you please;
But Tommy ain't no blooming fool, you can bet that Tommy sees !
(Rudyard Kipling )

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Re: Ramblings by the Cat
« Reply #2 on: November 12, 2008, 06:24:13 AM »
As much as the meddling is a huge problem, we are going to have a fight on our hands right here at home. Wehave to be very vocal about what solves a problem verses what restricts a constitutional right.
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Re: Ramblings by the Cat
« Reply #3 on: November 12, 2008, 06:53:15 AM »
As much as the meddling is a huge problem, we are going to have a fight on our hands right here at home. Wehave to be very vocal about what solves a problem verses what restricts a constitutional right.

I don't think they will listen.  They will hear, readjust, continue.  The people who cry about rights the most, privacy the most, freedom the most....those being the liberals, are the first to deny those rights to the people when given a choice between the rule of law or succeeding in their agenda.  If at all possible they pervert and avoid the rule of law to succeed at their agenda.

Jay, I know you are saavy....but let there be no mistaken thought amongst the rest of you who read this...the new regime will not play by the rules.  If you hear they are playing by the rules...it's only temporary expect what they plan to only be delayed or repackaged.  The liberal-socialists thugs that are in power...BHO-Biden, Pelosi, Reid, Schumer....have no problem denying rights they do not believe in.  If there lips are moving most likely they are lying.  BHO's associates and the political machine he came from are brutal.  They destroy people and they lie.  They play for keeps...each and every time...no exceptions.  Period.

We now have someone supported by the Chicago machine, multi-millionaire thieves and terrorists as president-elect.  They cannot tell the truth or they would be rejected and they know that.  To continue they must do what they have always done best.....smile, look pretty, speak well and lie.

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Re: Ramblings by the Cat
« Reply #4 on: November 12, 2008, 01:39:31 PM »
Arm chair generals, leave the tactics and fighting to people who are trained and have experience.
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Re: Ramblings by the Cat
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« Reply #5 on: November 12, 2008, 02:24:33 PM »
Guys, when I said civilian in charge I meant of the big show not the details.  Gen Washington could have easily proclaimed himself a military dictator but saw the wisdom of the military being a servant of the people not the rulers.

As far as the details it should of course, be strickly a military show and we'll tell you when we're done.
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Re: Ramblings by the Cat
« Reply #6 on: November 13, 2008, 02:25:09 AM »
Since these are just ramblings, Here's an idea (not mine) Only "Veterans" vote, not even serving members of the armed forces, ONLY Honorably discharged veterans.
Special tip of the helmet to any one who knows who the idea came from.

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Re: Ramblings by the Cat
« Reply #7 on: November 13, 2008, 02:39:43 AM »
Since these are just ramblings, Here's an idea (not mine) Only "Veterans" vote, not even serving members of the armed forces, ONLY Honorably discharged veterans.
Special tip of the helmet to any one who knows who the idea came from.

"Service guarantees citizenship." - Starship Troopers - Robert A. Heinlein, 1959. Would you like to know more?  ;D

Qoute from Wikipedia: Heinlein's Terran Federation is a limited democracy with aspects of a meritocracy based on willingness to sacrifice in the common interest. Suffrage belongs only to those willing to serve their society by two years of volunteer Federal Service — "the franchise is today limited to discharged veterans" instead of anyone "...who is 18 years old and has a body temperature near 37°C". The Federation is required to find a place for anyone who desires to serve, regardless of his skill or aptitude.

I'm a big Heinlein fan and always thought a couple of years of service should be mandatory for everyone when they reach adulthood. If you have to be honorably discharged to vote then I'm afraid I'm out of luck. But since I wasn't dishonorably discharged I can still vote. And own guns too. Let's just say mistakes were made and I paid the price. I would have rather taken my 10 lashes like in the book.
""It may be laid down as a primary position, and the basis of our system, that every Citizen who enjoys the protection of a free Government, owes not only a proportion of his property, but even his personal services to the defence of it, and consequently that the Citizens of America (with a few legal and official exceptions) from 18 to 50 Years of Age should be borne on the Militia Rolls, provided with uniform Arms, and so far accustomed to the use of them, that the Total strength of the Country might be called forth at a Short Notice on any very interesting Emergency." - George Washington. Letter to Alexander Hamilton, Friday, May 02, 1783

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Re: Ramblings by the Cat
« Reply #8 on: November 13, 2008, 11:15:07 AM »
"Service guarantees citizenship." - Starship Troopers - Robert A. Heinlein, 1959. Would you like to know more?  ;D

Qoute from Wikipedia: Heinlein's Terran Federation is a limited democracy with aspects of a meritocracy based on willingness to sacrifice in the common interest. Suffrage belongs only to those willing to serve their society by two years of volunteer Federal Service — "the franchise is today limited to discharged veterans" instead of anyone "...who is 18 years old and has a body temperature near 37°C". The Federation is required to find a place for anyone who desires to serve, regardless of his skill or aptitude.

I'm a big Heinlein fan and always thought a couple of years of service should be mandatory for everyone when they reach adulthood. If you have to be honorably discharged to vote then I'm afraid I'm out of luck. But since I wasn't dishonorably discharged I can still vote. And own guns too. Let's just say mistakes were made and I paid the price. I would have rather taken my 10 lashes like in the book.

;D You got it  Frank, Heinlein's Starship Troopers, IMO is sound philosophy disguised as Sci Fi .

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Re: Ramblings by the Cat
« Reply #9 on: November 13, 2008, 12:07:21 PM »
Since these are just ramblings, Here's an idea (not mine) Only "Veterans" vote, not even serving members of the armed forces, ONLY Honorably discharged veterans.
Special tip of the helmet to any one who knows who the idea came from.

Cool, just like in Starship Troopers.
Among the many misdeeds of the British rule in India, history will look upon the act of depriving a whole nation of arms, as the blackest.
Gandhi, An Autobiography, p. 446 (Beacon Press paperback edition)

 

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