Author Topic: 2 BREAKING NEWS DEVELOPMENTS - BERG v. OBAMA  (Read 23017 times)

tombogan03884

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Re: 2 BREAKING NEWS DEVELOPMENTS - BERG v. OBAMA
« Reply #20 on: November 14, 2008, 06:02:25 PM »
Since Obama was the dem nominee, if he is ruled ineligble the dems have NO candidate in the Electoral College, and McCain/Palin will be partying like Kennedys (as will I) come January 20th!!

i would personally like to see another election.  People didn't vote for bidden... they  voted for Obama.


I think you 2 have hit on the prime argument for a new election, People did not vote for Biden, but for B Ho, and the SCOTUS would not want to open itself up to charges of favoritism by just ignoring the Dems, might even require BOTH parties to start over with new nominations.
Thankfully as Neon pointed out neither party has much money left, nor would it be able to stretch out over 18 months or more, would have to be over in 90 days or so, no more than 6 months.

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Re: 2 BREAKING NEWS DEVELOPMENTS - BERG v. OBAMA
« Reply #21 on: November 14, 2008, 06:30:50 PM »
The sad part is just think of all the good that money could have done if people had sent it to the Charitys rather then a political party...

Atleast you can't right that money off.
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Re: 2 BREAKING NEWS DEVELOPMENTS - BERG v. OBAMA
« Reply #22 on: November 14, 2008, 07:11:50 PM »
One of the possible problems with the electoral college is that they use our vote as a guideline.  I don't know that they are required to vote the same as the popular, which means that they could elevate Biden if they wanted to.  Would it be any better if they approved the democratic ticket, and invalidated Obama and Biden as his running mate and then elevated Pelosi  ???

The only easy way through this is for Obama to produce the documents and prove he is qualified.  However, the longer he denies access, the guitier he looks and the scarier it gets.
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Re: 2 BREAKING NEWS DEVELOPMENTS - BERG v. OBAMA
« Reply #23 on: November 14, 2008, 07:16:21 PM »

I think you 2 have hit on the prime argument for a new election, People did not vote for Biden, but for B Ho, and the SCOTUS would not want to open itself up to charges of favoritism by just ignoring the Dems, might even require BOTH parties to start over with new nominations.
Thankfully as Neon pointed out neither party has much money left, nor would it be able to stretch out over 18 months or more, would have to be over in 90 days or so, no more than 6 months.

Sorry, Tom, there is no Constitutional basis for starting over. I think alfsuave had it right -

Two situations if he is disqualified.

Before the electoral college:  then it seems the delegate should vote for the the second place winner from the election....McCain.

After the electoral college:  then it might seem to favor the normal constitutional secession.

I don't know if I have enough ammo to quell or even protect against the riot that would ensue if bho is disqualified before the Electoral College votes. And that's in ND. God help those in more liberal urban areas.
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Re: 2 BREAKING NEWS DEVELOPMENTS - BERG v. OBAMA
« Reply #24 on: November 14, 2008, 07:23:50 PM »
Geez, I hate to be a buzzkill, but this really is a fantasy circle jerk. The MSM will NEVER let this happen.
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Re: 2 BREAKING NEWS DEVELOPMENTS - BERG v. OBAMA
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Re: 2 BREAKING NEWS DEVELOPMENTS - BERG v. OBAMA
« Reply #25 on: November 14, 2008, 07:41:25 PM »
Geez, I hate to be a buzzkill, but this really is a fantasy circle jerk. The MSM will NEVER let this happen.

I fear your right.  Even if something would happen with BHO, the MSM would get everyone so stirred up that rules, laws and Constitution would not matter in the face of potential rioting to retain the messiah  :'(
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Re: 2 BREAKING NEWS DEVELOPMENTS - BERG v. OBAMA
« Reply #26 on: November 14, 2008, 07:58:18 PM »
i belive the speaker of the house would take the presidency since the president elect could not take office due to his birth place. it would follow the chain on down.  the line of succession i belive is what they call it.  since obama was never sworn its not biden, and since bush's term is up its not his vp. so the speaker of the house of represenatives would be sworn into office
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Re: 2 BREAKING NEWS DEVELOPMENTS - BERG v. OBAMA
« Reply #27 on: November 14, 2008, 10:07:50 PM »
I went to www.obamacrimes.com to see what the plaintiffs in this case said. The court will decide whether they want to review the case after Obama has presented his response AND Berg has presented his response to the Obama response. Then they will make the decision whether they will even hear this case.

My intuition tells me they are not going to get in the middle of this unless there is compelling reasons to do so. It's kind of like instant replay in the NFL: there has to be conclusive evidence to overturn the call on the field. I think we need to save our emotional energy on this one and get ready to fight this administration tooth and nail.

I'll use WW II analogy to describe our fight: we need to make the next 4 - 8 years of his administration a Stalingrad.

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Re: 2 BREAKING NEWS DEVELOPMENTS - BERG v. OBAMA
« Reply #28 on: November 15, 2008, 08:29:09 AM »
Geez, I hate to be a buzzkill, but this really is a fantasy circle jerk. The MSM will NEVER let this happen.

Yep, I think it is all just a wild goose chase.
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Re: 2 BREAKING NEWS DEVELOPMENTS - BERG v. OBAMA
« Reply #29 on: November 15, 2008, 09:32:20 AM »
It might be well to consider that if Berg's case has merit then the nine Justices are in a position to exercise a lot of power and change the face of American politics. The system was set up with 3 co - equal branches, but the Judicial branch has been reduced to rulings on porn and Nativity scenes on public property, they got a lot of attention from the Heller case, and would probably be very eager to remind Congress and future presidents that the court has as much clout as they do, and do not have to worry about re election.

 

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