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Re: Hillary Clinton accepts Secy of State
« Reply #20 on: November 23, 2008, 08:54:44 PM »
Where is this stated in the Constitution? Article VI says that treaties are Part of the supreme law of the land but it does not state that a treaty can over ride constitutional guarantees like the 2A.

Article 2 Section 2

He shall have Power, by and with the Advice and Consent of the Senate, to make Treaties, provided two thirds of the Senators present concur;
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Re: Hillary Clinton accepts Secy of State
« Reply #21 on: November 23, 2008, 09:52:16 PM »
Article 2 Section 2

He shall have Power, by and with the Advice and Consent of the Senate, to make Treaties, provided two thirds of the Senators present concur;

Would a treaty be any different than any legislation passed and subject to Constitutionality?
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Re: Hillary Clinton accepts Secy of State
« Reply #22 on: November 23, 2008, 09:56:10 PM »
Would a treaty be any different than any legislation passed and subject to Constitutionality?

Nope. What would happen if a treaty was approved to ship your children to Chile to stomp grapes in return for lower cost wine?
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Re: Hillary Clinton accepts Secy of State
« Reply #23 on: November 23, 2008, 10:02:41 PM »
Nope. What would happen if a treaty was approved to ship your children to Chile to stomp grapes in return for lower cost wine?

That's what I'm hoping for - That we could count on our Constitution to protect us from liberals acting on the world stage.  However, why does this protection not go to the American troops that refuse to renounce their oath to protect the Constitution when assigned to the U.N.?

I fear that the "common sense" regulations that BHO wants will be slipped in the kool-aid and pushed on U.S. Citizens through things like the U.N.
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Re: Hillary Clinton accepts Secy of State
« Reply #24 on: November 23, 2008, 10:24:37 PM »
And to further irritate and annoy you, the UN has for year tried to get our Federally protected areas AND resources placed under UN auspices.  The Grand Canyon belongs to the world after all. It just falls within our borders. Resources? The US should make them available to anyone that wants them.

The UN is nothing but a debating society, with most members dictatorships, socialists or despots. I personally fail to see the difference, or why we should even consider this organization as a platform for true progress.
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Re: Hillary Clinton accepts Secy of State
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Re: Hillary Clinton accepts Secy of State
« Reply #25 on: November 23, 2008, 10:46:05 PM »
Nope. What would happen if a treaty was approved to ship your children to Chile to stomp grapes in return for lower cost wine?

Treaties can be reviewed by scotus to determine if they are lawful.

The Constitution states in Article III:

    "The judicial power of the United States, shall be vested in one Supreme Court, and in such inferior courts as the Congress may from time to time ordain and establish....The judicial power shall extend to all cases, in law and equity, arising under this Constitution, the laws of the United States, and treaties made, or which shall be made, under their authority....In all cases affecting ambassadors, other public ministers and consuls, and those in which a state shall be party, the Supreme Court shall have original jurisdiction. In all the other cases before mentioned, the Supreme Court shall have appellate jurisdiction, both as to law and fact, with such exceptions, and under such regulations as the Congress shall make."
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UPDATE: Hillary Clinton accepts Secy of State
« Reply #26 on: November 26, 2008, 01:40:16 PM »
UPDATE: It is unconstitutional for Hillary to be appointed -- not like that will stop Barack O from doing anything.

http://hotair.com/archives/2008/11/26/would-appointing-hillary-violate-the-constitution/
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    If President-elect Barack Obama nominates Hillary Clinton to be secretary of state, many legal scholars believe it would be the former law professor’s first violation of the Constitution as president.

    Why? Because the Constitution forbids the appointment of members of Congress to administration jobs if the salary of the job they’d take was raised while they were in Congress. (Article I, Section 6: “No Senator or Representative shall, during the Time for which he was elected, be appointed to any civil office … the Emoluments whereof shall have been encreased during such time.”  Emoluments meaning salaries and benefits.)

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However, Obama would be far from the first President to run afoul of this restriction.  Nixon appointed William Saxbe to be Attorney General under similar circumstance, while Jimmy Carter appointed Ed Muskie to the same position Hillary will fill.  Her husband appointed Lloyd Bentsen to run Treasury in the last such instance.  No one ever proposed impeachment or a disqualification for these appointments, all of whom took their offices without much controversy at all.
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Re: Hillary Clinton accepts Secy of State
« Reply #27 on: November 27, 2008, 01:21:26 PM »
Letter time followed by lawsuit if it happens. Unless someone has a sliver bullet?
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