RUSSIAN ANALYST PREDICTS DECLINE AND BREAKUP OF USA

[Rastus]

I don't think his demographic scenarios accurately hold water....but it is interesting in itself that "they" are saying this about "us".  Never hurts to get a second opinion if for no other reason to get one to think outside the box.  Ponder the last line about where he is really from and what he has published....now give it another thought and think international relations and national interests.   


From the Drudgereport.com

RUSSIAN ANALYST PREDICTS DECLINE AND BREAKUP OF USA
Tue Nov 25 2008 09:04:22 ET

A leading Russian political analyst has said the economic turmoil in the United States has confirmed his long-held view that the country is heading for collapse, and will divide into separate parts.

Professor Igor Panarin said in an interview with the respected daily IZVESTIA published on Monday: "The dollar is not secured by anything. The country's foreign debt has grown like an avalanche, even though in the early 1980s there was no debt. By 1998, when I first made my prediction, it had exceeded $2 trillion. Now it is more than 11 trillion. This is a pyramid that can only collapse."

The paper said Panarin's dire predictions for the U.S. economy, initially made at an international conference in Australia 10 years ago at a time when the economy appeared strong, have been given more credence by this year's events.

When asked when the U.S. economy would collapse, Panarin said: "It is already collapsing. Due to the financial crisis, three of the largest and oldest five banks on Wall Street have already ceased to exist, and two are barely surviving. Their losses are the biggest in history. Now what we will see is a change in the regulatory system on a global financial scale: America will no longer be the world's financial regulator."

When asked who would replace the U.S. in regulating world markets, he said: "Two countries could assume this role: China, with its vast reserves, and Russia, which could play the role of a regulator in Eurasia."

Asked why he expected the U.S. to break up into separate parts, he said: "A whole range of reasons. Firstly, the financial problems in the U.S. will get worse. Millions of citizens there have lost their savings. Prices and unemployment are on the rise. General Motors and Ford are on the verge of collapse, and this means that whole cities will be left without work. Governors are already insistently demanding money from the federal center. Dissatisfaction is growing, and at the moment it is only being held back by the elections and the hope that Obama can work miracles. But by spring, it will be clear that there are no miracles."

He also cited the "vulnerable political setup", "lack of unified national laws", and "divisions among the elite, which have become clear in these crisis conditions."

He predicted that the U.S. will break up into six parts - the Pacific coast, with its growing Chinese population; the South, with its Hispanics; Texas, where independence movements are on the rise; the Atlantic coast, with its distinct and separate mentality; five of the poorer central states with their large Native American populations; and the northern states, where the influence from Canada is strong.

He even suggested that "we could claim Alaska - it was only granted on lease, after all." Panarin, 60, is a professor at the Diplomatic Academy of the Russian Ministry of Foreign Affairs, and has authored several books on information warfare.

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[WatchManUSA]

A leading Russian political analyst has said the economic turmoil in the United States has confirmed his long-held view that the country is heading for collapse, and will divide into separate parts.

It seems to me that a perfect retort would be...

“The reports of my death are greatly exaggerated.”

Samuel (Mark Twain) Langhorne Clemens after hearing that his obituary had been published in the New York Journal.

[tombogan03884]

it was only granted on lease, after all."  BS,
Other points are interesting though,
Dissatisfaction is growing, and at the moment it is only being held back by the elections and the hope that Obama can work miracles. But by spring, it will be clear that there are no miracles."
even though in the early 1980s there was no debt. By 1998, when I first made my prediction, it had exceeded $2 trillion. THE CLINTON YEARS.

[TexGun]

Since Texas is listed as one of the surviving territories maybe we can go back to when our northern border was somewhere in the middle of Wyoming. 

[Rastus]

I................Panarin, 60, is a professor at the Diplomatic Academy of the Russian Ministry of Foreign Affairs, and has authored several books on information warfare.

OK...no comments about his position and his work?  I was thinking through that this is useful information.  We all know the Soviets supported disruptive movements in the West during the Cold War...nations have interests....is this an indication we may be returning to that sort of thing supported on a more agressive level now?  Are efforts ramping up to destabilize us at this point in history?

[Sponsor]

[Pathfinder]

OK...no comments about his position and his work?  I was thinking through that this is useful information.  We all know the Soviets supported disruptive movements in the West during the Cold War...nations have interests....is this an indication we may be returning to that sort of thing supported on a more agressive level now?  Are efforts ramping up to destabilize us at this point in history?

I don't think the Russians ever really stopped, slowed way down, sure, they had their own series of problems for a long time after the breakup of the Soviet Union. Remember, Putin is old guard KGB, not to be trusted.

I would say, given the Russkie's position with Academy and the author of books on "information warfare", his bringing this up is a rather inelegant and obvious attempt to do just that - destabilize us - to plant the seed, tell the lie one more time so it becomes - unchallenged - a truth.

[tombogan03884]

I don't think the Russians ever really stopped, slowed way down, sure, they had their own series of problems for a long time after the breakup of the Soviet Union. Remember, Putin is old guard KGB, not to be trusted.

I would say, given the Russkie's position with Academy and the author of books on "information warfare", his bringing this up is a rather inelegant and obvious attempt to do just that - destabilize us - to plant the seed, tell the lie one more time so it becomes - unchallenged - a truth.

That's exactly how the "nuclear winter" and "global warming"  lies got started.

[Rastus]

That's exactly how the "nuclear winter" and "global warming"  lies got started.

So how much of a stretch is it to link the U.S. mouthpieces to the source?

[tombogan03884]

So how much of a stretch is it to link the U.S. mouthpieces to the source?

It was done through educational exchange programs. When Carl Sagan released his report about Nuclear winter even American scientists condemned him  for 1) not submitting it for peer reveiw, many of the "facts" used in compiling the report were later found to be questionable at best, and 2) for releasing it through the press instead of a scientific journal as is the usual way of doing it.

[Rastus]

It was done through educational exchange programs. When Carl Sagan released his report about Nuclear winter even American scientists condemned him  for 1) not submitting it for peer reveiw, many of the "facts" used in compiling the report were later found to be questionable at best, and 2) for releasing it through the press instead of a scientific journal as is the usual way of doing it.

Exactly.  Which is why I coined the term "Carl Sagan pseudo-science" to hang on other misrepresented "scientific" ideas.  It looks like science, it feels like science, it even smells like science, but it's really crap sweetened with journalistic syrup to cover the stench of disinformation.