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Re: How about a Franken AR..
« Reply #10 on: November 30, 2008, 06:37:30 PM »
And that is how the collapsible stock has come to rule the world.

I thought it was because in the mid-1960s the army wanted a submachinegun sized weapon in an assault rifle caliber that was easy to handle getting in and out of vehicles, and now everyone thinks they look cool.  8)  If collapsible stocks were "ruling the world" they would be on all service rifles and target rifles, instead of only being used on short carbines. The collapible stock is too short for average sized adults and teens when it's fully collapsed. A fixed stock of the correct length lends itself to better accuracy due to no moving parts making it more stable and it's being more comfortable. Just my $.02 worth.
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Re: How about a Franken AR..
« Reply #11 on: November 30, 2008, 08:04:24 PM »
I thought it was because in the mid-1960s the army wanted a submachinegun sized weapon in an assault rifle caliber that was easy to handle getting in and out of vehicles, and now everyone thinks they look cool.  8)  If collapsible stocks were "ruling the world" they would be on all service rifles and target rifles, instead of only being used on short carbines. The collapible stock is too short for average sized adults and teens when it's fully collapsed. A fixed stock of the correct length lends itself to better accuracy due to no moving parts making it more stable and it's being more comfortable. Just my $.02 worth.

That would be a jumbofranken AR.
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Re: How about a Franken AR..
« Reply #12 on: November 30, 2008, 11:29:26 PM »
One of mine is jumbofranken-AR, aka Sweet 16, and the other one is son of jumbofranken-AR, aka My Little Friend. Each one is a real mish-mash of parts. Lots of fun building stuff like that. I just can't bring myself to create a bride of jumbofranken-AR. You know, like a pink one.
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Re: How about a Franken AR..
« Reply #13 on: December 01, 2008, 01:21:32 AM »
I've always respected the AR's abilitity to take different set-ups and still run 100%.
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Re: How about a Franken AR..
« Reply #14 on: December 01, 2008, 07:34:36 AM »
Bidah,

Very nice setup.  It will serve you well and it will never run out of batteries!

I think an A1 stock would be perfect.  In case you didn't know, the A1 stock is the same length as the newer collapsable stocks (when fully extended.)  I use a very similar setup for my HD rifle.  I'll have to get some pics of it.  If you can find one, look for an A1 stock with the trapdoor compartment.  It's a nice way to carry some spare parts or a small bottle of oil and a bore snack wrapped in a rag. 

Nice job.

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Re: How about a Franken AR..
« Reply #15 on: December 01, 2008, 11:16:41 AM »
Thanks everybody.  Ok, especially Erik.. :)  I will see if I can track down an A1 stock and see how that does.  I would like to find a used one, and I have seen them before.  It will be painted, so I don't care how rough the stock looks.  Someday I might track down a 1/7 barrel and have that cut and ready to replace this one.  This barrel is so tight I am not sure it was ever installed on a rifle, but just some leftover parts with the old twist.

Oh, I can always just build another upper, once the prices come down a bit from the frenzy.  I still want one that is a caliber above.  I will have to track down another Colt A1 or maybe one of the Canadian DK ones.  Oh, the addiction continues...

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Re: How about a Franken AR..
« Reply #16 on: December 02, 2008, 07:08:23 PM »
Bidah,

Very nice setup.  It will serve you well and it will never run out of batteries!

I think an A1 stock would be perfect.  In case you didn't know, the A1 stock is the same length as the newer collapsable stocks (when fully extended.)  I use a very similar setup for my HD rifle.  I'll have to get some pics of it.  If you can find one, look for an A1 stock with the trapdoor compartment.  It's a nice way to carry some spare parts or a small bottle of oil and a bore snack wrapped in a rag. 

Nice job.

USSA-1

Fully extended the LOP on my six-position M4 stock is actually longer than an A1 stock or an A2. I have to put it one click in to make it equal to the length of my A2. Collapsing it in two clicks would make it about equal to the A1 stock. If you add a butt pad you can only extend the stock halfway out to equal the A1 length. The collapsible stock is over an inch longer than the A1. Your stocks must be different from mine. BTW all A1 stocks have trapdoors in them. That's what makes them A1s.
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