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A reminder for all the reloaders...
« on: December 01, 2008, 04:26:55 PM »
Don't ever, use pistol powders in a rifle...just look at the pics in the OP.

http://www.surplusrifleforum.com/viewtopic.php?f=53&t=66812
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Re: A reminder for all the reloaders...
« Reply #1 on: December 01, 2008, 05:01:31 PM »
HOLY CRAP!!!  :o
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Re: A reminder for all the reloaders...
« Reply #2 on: December 01, 2008, 06:01:28 PM »
Don't ever, use pistol powders in a rifle...just look at the pics in the OP.

I know what you mean, and there's a good chance that the wrong powder was used in this case, but that's a broad statement.   H110 and 2400 are example of "pistol" powders that are used with success in .30 Carbine as well as .223 for the lighter bullets.   
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Re: A reminder for all the reloaders...
« Reply #3 on: December 02, 2008, 11:49:05 AM »
Wow.  Biggest point made is to never shoot reloads in a firearm that were not developed for it.  I have thought of going into reloading custom ammo but not being to control what someone else will do with them is why I don't do it.  Don't want to be hauled into court and pay for someone elses stupidity.
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Re: A reminder for all the reloaders...
« Reply #4 on: December 02, 2008, 01:53:45 PM »
When I reload I take out ONLY the powder I plan to use and I measure each and every powder charge before I put it in the case. I might keep a copy of this to show the people who tell me I'm an Idiot for not buying a progressive.
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Re: A reminder for all the reloaders...
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Re: A reminder for all the reloaders...
« Reply #5 on: December 03, 2008, 03:05:21 PM »
Warhawke, I also measure each powder charge.  I use a Lee powder measure but it is so inconsistent, up to 1/2 gr deviation, that I measure each powdercharge.  Consistent powder charges makes for safe and consistent load performance.
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Re: A reminder for all the reloaders...
« Reply #6 on: December 03, 2008, 03:19:26 PM »
When I reload I take out ONLY the powder I plan to use and I measure each and every powder charge before I put it in the case. I might keep a copy of this to show the people who tell me I'm an Idiot for not buying a progressive.

your an idiot...

If it was not for a good progressive press, no way would I reload.  with a single stage or turret I would lose money doing it.(in other words I'd make more money working then I would reloading)  you really can't double charge rifle cases, with rifle powders( general statment).   hand gun yes.  A realy simple way to check to make sure you have the right charges etc is every 5 or 10 wieght a completed cartrage and every 25 or check the powder throw.   I personally check every case with a case guage, but thats just me.


Most of the probs people have with progressives are them not paying attention or not working the press correctly( short stroking, forget to index, both of those have easy fixs or press have check built in.)

I've done ~ 10k rounds since the start of the year, I have never had a charge be off by more then .1 grain and never had drastic OAL issuse.


of corse I do have a dillon 1050 and a kiss bullet feeder.   ;D
I always break all the clay pigeons,  some times its even with lead.

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Re: A reminder for all the reloaders...
« Reply #7 on: December 03, 2008, 03:44:09 PM »
We use a Dillon 650 progressive.  We added a powder level check right away, but the only time we have had a problem is when we did something that caused a case to miss the powder fill.  We have never had an double or over charge.  We check the amount with a scale on a regular basis, and it is unbeleivable how consistant it is.
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Re: A reminder for all the reloaders...
« Reply #8 on: December 04, 2008, 02:23:28 AM »
Warhawke, I also measure each powder charge.  I use a Lee powder measure but it is so inconsistent, up to 1/2 gr deviation, that I measure each powdercharge.  Consistent powder charges makes for safe and consistent load performance.

As long as you are not using Max loads I assume (Yes I know ;D )that you are more concerned with consistant performance since modern firearms are proofed with double or triple loads.


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Re: A reminder for all the reloaders...
« Reply #9 on: December 04, 2008, 09:44:40 AM »
As long as you are not using Max loads I assume (Yes I know ;D )that you are more concerned with consistant performance since modern firearms are proofed with double or triple loads.



They aren't proofed THAT HIGH. Some are 15-20% higher pressure. A triple load of powder would be what? 10,000% higher pressure?
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