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More anti-gun ranting/Obama worship from the N.Y. Slimes
« on: December 02, 2008, 03:23:47 PM »
http://www.nytimes.com/2008/12/02/opinion/02tue3.html

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The gun lobby has long intimidated politicians with its war chest and its trumpeted ability to deliver single-issue voters, especially in tight races. After this year’s election, those politicians should be far less afraid and far more willing to vote for sensible gun-control laws.

 The National Rifle Association directed much money and bile against Barack Obama. In false, misleading and, fortunately, ineffective ads, fliers, mailers and Web postings, the group said that Mr. Obama posed a “clear and present danger” to Second Amendment rights and that his election would mean a gun ban.

Despite that harsh barrage, Mr. Obama won states with heavy gun ownership, including Virginia, Ohio and Pennsylvania. That success should send a signal to other politicians: consistency matters.

In fact, Mr. Obama has long been a supporter of the argument, disputed by this page, that the Second Amendment bestows an individual right to bear arms unrelated to raising a militia. But Mr. Obama did not abandon his support for reasonable gun-control laws. “Don’t tell me we can’t uphold the Second Amendment while keeping AK-47s out of the hands of criminals,” he declared at the Democratic convention.

In Congressional races, the N.R.A. endorsed candidates in 20 of the 25 races where Democrats picked up seats from Republicans. We will not miss Florida’s Tom Feeney and Ric Keller, Idaho’s Bill Sali, Michigan’s Joe Knollenberg, Ohio’s Steve Chabot, Colorado’s Marilyn Musgrave and Pennsylvania’s Phil English — willing champions of an extreme agenda.

On the Senate side, the N.R.A. spent considerable sums to help Senator Elizabeth Dole of North Carolina and Bob Schaffer, the Republican Senate candidate in Colorado. Both were defeated.

And the N.R.A.’s poor showing was not just a single isolated event. A useful election analysis prepared by the Brady Campaign to Prevent Gun Violence shows that its 2006 campaign effort also was a big flop.

We hope the trend continues. To fight crime and keep Americans safe, this country needs sound gun-control laws. To pass those laws as president, Mr. Obama will need strong Congressional support.
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Re: More anti-gun ranting/Obama worship from the N.Y. Slimes
« Reply #1 on: December 02, 2008, 03:32:55 PM »
Love it ... Abolutely Love It!

Supporting a Constitutional Right is now an extremist agenda  >:(
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Re: More anti-gun ranting/Obama worship from the N.Y. Slimes
« Reply #2 on: December 02, 2008, 03:40:39 PM »
But there is not a concerted effort for gun control!  We are told that every time this subject comes up.  BHO has no reason to go after guns, it won't happen, blah, blah, blah......

Once again those that refuse to look at the facts will be hoodwinked and we will all pay.  If the daily 'bad gun' stories and opinion pieces don't point out the obvious to them (those who believe the 'no he won't' BS) we are in BIG trouble.
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Re: More anti-gun ranting/Obama worship from the N.Y. Slimes
« Reply #3 on: December 02, 2008, 04:00:48 PM »
But there is not a concerted effort for gun control!  We are told that every time this subject comes up.  BHO has no reason to go after guns, it won't happen, blah, blah, blah......

Once again those that refuse to look at the facts will be hoodwinked and we will all pay.  If the daily 'bad gun' stories and opinion pieces don't point out the obvious to them (those who believe the 'no he won't' BS) we are in BIG trouble.

They didn't get it before the election! I have no hope that they will suddenly get it now. Yes, we ARE in big trouble.  >:(
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Re: More anti-gun ranting/Obama worship from the N.Y. Slimes
« Reply #4 on: December 02, 2008, 08:19:56 PM »
The fact that this asshat asserts that there is "no concerted effort for gun control" reminds me of those who deny the Holocaust.  If I say it didn't (or isn't) happening, the it's a fact.
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Re: More anti-gun ranting/Obama worship from the N.Y. Slimes
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« Reply #5 on: December 02, 2008, 08:24:58 PM »
Good thing we are the only people still reading the NY Times.
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Re: More anti-gun ranting/Obama worship from the N.Y. Slimes
« Reply #6 on: December 02, 2008, 09:41:19 PM »
I agree with this excerpt of an article from the Federal Observer, that the NRA is impotent.

Why then the success of gun control? The heavyweight tiebreaker is of course the left-liberal, gun-hating media.

Realizing that it takes lots of money to run for office in America, and realizing further that most is spent by campaigning politicians in media advertising, the media as a "special player" puts the unconstitutional gun control minorities in a position that is much more vocal and powerful than the greater number representing the people in the NRA. Considering also, that poll after poll shows that 70 percent of Americans don’t want anymore gun control, what we now have is a tyranny of the minority over the majority of citizens in America. Add to this fact that the NRA has become structurally incompetent itself as a large, layered organization, and gun owners are in deep trouble. And so is all of America.

Gun control organizations of minority grass roots membership are lean, effectively organized, and have massive media propaganda on their side. Additionally, extremely wealthy behind-the-scenes millionaire/billionaire socialists like Andrew McKelvey, can pump vast sums of money into their movement dwarfing the funding resources of membership heavy, grassroots organizations that are trying to protect their Bill of Rights freedoms which the minorities and their media are incessantly attacking.

Although the NRA does a lot of good, it is a classic example of an increasingly structurally incompetent organization mired in a tendency towards politically expedient damage control as opposed to all-out aggressive, proactive publicity and education campaign. The NRA’s organizational network is ready and willing, but structural incompetence as well as their gate keeping protectionism, is tying gun owners hands along with their shootin’ irons.

http://www.federalobserver.com/archive.php?aid=6027
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