Need ur thoughts on some "wonder 9's"

[Ksail101]

The thing with me and the AR is such a love hate relationship. I look at it more as a tool for a job instead of a something to go have fun with. And with that said the ability to shoot it regularly will be much harder, I think, than another pistol. I got my beautiful lever action that if SHTF I know I can run and will be ok with. I have a lot of fun with my lever-gun too. So I dont know if I will have the same amount of fun with the AR. I love AR's and if I ran a school or was in the biz of teaching I would have multiple and use them frequently. But I feel if I was to get one I would let it sit and solely look at it as a tool to do a job not something to enjoy.

Although I could be looking into it way to far and I might just get an AR and never touch a pistol again...

 

[warhawke]

Personally, I hate the Beretta, I've seen too many issues with them. Yes I know, keep it clean, change the springs every x number of rounds, blah, blah. Forget it, won't own one. Now the Taurus PT-99 (which I owned) is ok, I bought it off a friend with upteen bazillion rounds shout through it and Taurus took it back and made it like new (I suspect they might have de-milled the original and issued a new one with the same serial number, but that is just supposition on my part). I liked it and shot it a bunch, but I traded it off long ago for something else. It was good but too bulky for me.

The CZ-75 is the shizzel (to use the vernacular), that is one of the best feeling weapons I have ever picked up. Sights falling effortlessly on target, bullets with the disturbing tendency to fall in the same hole (no, I don't think it's me I'm not that good), and CHEAP! (comparatively). The guys over at CZ forum like to swap out the factory springs for wolff  (use the BHP recoil spring though, the CZ spring is actually for a Witness and is a bit bigger than required, most say #15 or #16). You can get a CZ-85 smooth trigger and spring replacement from this guy;
http://czcustom.com/catalog/index.php
and you will be good to go.

If you do want the CZ, get it, and get an AK with the change. Best of both worlds, new pistol and a rifle you can play with all day on the cheap.

[Pathfinder]

CZ is built for my hand and I like decockers.

What Haz said +1. Here's why.

I was at my department's holiday  Christmas party yesterday, talking with a co-worker I knew had a CCW, talking about the gun show here next weekend. - with another in January. Anyhow, she was talking endlessly about the CZ75 she wanted for Christmas, how much she liked it, especially over a Glock.

Take it as a sign, Ksail -  - go for the CZ and go for a decocker. 

[jaybet]

Hi Ksail,
I don't have a CZ- would really like to get one someday soon. They are a real value in substance and engineering. When I bought my first handgun I was looking at CZs, but hadn't heard that much about them. I ended up with a Sig Pro 9mm, my first handgun which I still love and believe to be absolutely reliable.

My point is that the Sig is SA/DA with a decocker, and that is one of the reasons I bought it. I can't carry, but I feel like that system is a great pseudo-safety. In DA you really have to WANT to let that first shot go...the rest are easy and will be accurate. There's no way you'll ever have a AD in double action.

So I always recommend Sigs, but if you go that way with a CZ you will be a Happy Guy.

[Bidah]

I have had a 75B for quite a number of years and shot mine a lot.  For a die hard 1911 guy, that is a compliment.  I do not have the decocker, but I have run it using it SA mode only (aka 1911), and with the DA first shot.  For a lot of people it comes down to preference.  If lowering tihe hammer, manually, on a live round makes you squeamish, then get the decocker.

The 92 has a pretty large grip on it.  The 75 fits my hand like it was meant to be there.  The ONLY other pistol that fits better is the P01.  That one feels like an extension of my hand..

There are a few places to get magazines, and the normal price is $20 for the Mec-Gar's.  They are who make the factory magazines, and they work great.  CDNN is usually your best bet.  You can check out www.czforumsite.info.

-Bidah

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[ericire12]

Want to go real small then get the Glock 26...... If you dont see the need for another Glock, then go with SIG. My first choice would be the 229:

[MikeO]

I was issued M9s from 88 - 98, have owned several, and have seen many more civilian and LE 92s in action. Have owned several CZs and seen them in action around the world too.

Both excellent guns. I would give the Beretta the edge in reliability, the CZ in durability. If you are going to shoot it a lot (>25K), use it in action games, go w the CZ cuzz there is no locking block to break that needs fitting to replace.

[tombogan03884]

I've never tried either pistol, Had a bad experience with a clone of a single stack Beretta, so I would not get that myself.
You are already familiar with the Model 92 so you would know better than I weather the brass still lands on your head, But I have NEVER heard a negitive comment about CZ, not even as minor as that.

[DesertMarine]

I have had two Beretta 92's, boring.  I bought mine shortly after the military went to them.  Don't know how the new models are now.  Would like to try the CZ's. 

[m25operator]

A picture of my old military CZ 75, epoxy finish, no import marks, lanyard ring etc.. Smooth as butter and good shooting. I replaced the rear sight from one for a Springfield Armory p9, ( tangfolio ) because it shot low.