Glock 27 Subcompact at 80 Yards

[Kilroy]

The shortened grip on the G27 does inhibit the ability of a shooter to "milk" the grip while firing.  Increasing grip pressure as the trigger is pulled will introduce lateral misses.  Further the distance, the more the error that is created by even a tiny increase in grip pressure.

Add the G27's dual recoil spring and you have a nice shooting pistol with very good accuracy potential.

[HAWKFISH]

The shortened grip on the G27 does inhibit the ability of a shooter to "milk" the grip while firing.  Increasing grip pressure as the trigger is pulled will introduce lateral misses.  Further the distance, the more the error that is created by even a tiny increase in grip pressure.

Add the G27's dual recoil spring and you have a nice shooting pistol with very good accuracy potential.

Not if you use a grip extender..   

[Kilroy]

Not if you use a grip extender..   

The grip extender has been a culprit in allowing a shooter to milk the grip.  I've improved shooters by removing extenders.

More often, after market extenders are not made to a consistent standard.  I have much personal experience in the problems that after market extenders cause.  Most often the fit is so tight of the top of the extender against the bottom of the frame that wear increases on the notch for the magazine release, causing damage to the magazine. 

If one must, the OEM "plus" magazine floor plate is the way to go for folks that want to increase the length of the pistol grip.

[ericire12]

Not if you use a grip extender..   

Or use full size mags.... maybe also with one of these:




17+1 baby! 

[tombogan03884]

You know I need to try this at the range with some of my guns..  I do know that I can get 5-7 shots out of 13 to hit a big standard shooting circle target at 100 yards. I've tried it a few times bracing the gun on a rest. And that was shooting my G23..Glock .40..with a 4.02in" barrel and wwb ammo. I just wanted to see if I could hit the target.. amazingly I did about half the time with the compact Glock. My buddy tried the same thing with a beretta 9mm and didn't hit once.. but I think I'm a better shot than him anyways.. perhaps I could have got the beretta to have hit too. .dunno..  

I've been putting some thought into this and have come up with an idea. If there are trees or some other objects behind your ranges targets that you can use for reference, you could aim at a ridiculous range target, ( 100 - 500 yards) start low, aiming right at the target, you or an observer watching the fall of your shot and adjusting based on back ground aiming points.
If you keep notes of, firing lane, aim point, ammo, etc you should be able to repeat the shot at a later date on first try.
This is the way artillery works, indirect fire, it's not something that would have any PRACTICAL use, but it could win you some free beers if it works.

Make sure you consider the safety situation of your particular range, we don't want to be putting rounds over the berm. Start low and work up carefully.

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[ericire12]

I've been putting some thought into this and have come up with an idea. If there are trees or some other objects behind your ranges targets that you can use for reference, you could aim at a ridiculous range target, ( 100 - 500 yards) start low, aiming right at the target, you or an observer watching the fall of your shot and adjusting based on back ground aiming points.
If you keep notes of, firing lane, aim point, ammo, etc you should be able to repeat the shot at a later date on first try.
This is the way artillery works, indirect fire, it's not something that would have any PRACTICAL use, but it could win you some free beers if it works.

Make sure you consider the safety situation of your particular range, we don't want to be putting rounds over the berm. Start low and work up carefully.

The ballistics say that a .40 155 gr FMJ zeroed at 25yds will have a -3.8 inch trajectory at 75 yds. -8.9 at 100 yds.  -16.3 at 125 yds. -26.3 at 150 yds. -38.8 at 175 yds. and -54.3 at 200 yds


500yds = -516.6 inches!

[tombogan03884]

The ballistics say that a .40 155 gr FMJ zeroed at 25yds will have a -3.8 inch trajectory at 75 yds. -8.9 at 100 yds.  -16.3 at 125 yds. -26.3 at 150 yds. -38.8 at 175 yds. and -54.3 at 200 yds


500yds = -516.6 inches!

 Like I said, indirect fire    I had not done the math on it though. About 8.5 man heights high at 500 yards.

[HAWKFISH]

I've been putting some thought into this and have come up with an idea. If there are trees or some other objects behind your ranges targets that you can use for reference, you could aim at a ridiculous range target, ( 100 - 500 yards) start low, aiming right at the target, you or an observer watching the fall of your shot and adjusting based on back ground aiming points.
If you keep notes of, firing lane, aim point, ammo, etc you should be able to repeat the shot at a later date on first try.
This is the way artillery works, indirect fire, it's not something that would have any PRACTICAL use, but it could win you some free beers if it works.
Make sure you consider the safety situation of your particular range, we don't want to be putting rounds over the berm. Start low and work up carefully.

lol tombogan03884.. It already won me free lunch!  ..   And for the record I was aiming about what I percieved to a foot high..with my G23 at the time to get the hits at 100yrds. But, it is hard because at that distance the target is hard to see because the sights cover em' up too much. But make no mistake about it.. people say "you can't hit nothing that far", that's not true.. you can.. it's just a lot harder.

[tombogan03884]

Glad to know I'm not crazy