Help me out - need a semi with the following specs

[Fatman]

Don't mean to burst your feel good Fatman but I just checked the MA approved list and the P229 DAK, P226 DAK and the P239 DAK are all OK in MA in .40 S&W!  The SAS version of the P229 is not, that's the dehorned, walnut grip version. 

lol, only looked at the 250, Tim.  Digging at the politicians in those states that we all know and love, not you guys. Can't wait to see which progressive state starts in with the child-proof guns.  Yeah, right. Kids can open child-proof medicine caps better than most adults.

[TSB]

lol, only looked at the 250, Tim.  Digging at the politicians in those states that we all know and love, not you guys. Can't wait to see which progressive state starts in with the child-proof guns.  Yeah, right. Kids can open child-proof medicine caps better than most adults.

+1

It's amazing my two brothers, two sisters and I grew up in the sixties.  We had at least 15 long guns and a few revolvers just resting in their wall mounted racks with the ammo and such readily at hand with an old Japanese bayonet my dad managed to bring back from the Pacific.  To no ones suprise we never shot anyone, stabbed anyone or did anything stupid with any of those firearms.  The wrath of the "Old Man" (who never laid a hand on us!) was enough to discourage such shinanigans!

We don't need to child proof anything, we just need to get back to the basics of raising children.....and a couple of years in the military wouldn't hurt either.....

Hooahh...

[TAB]

times have changed.  When I was in school, if the teacher called home, you had an ass whopping waiting for you.  Now days they are lucky if they even get the message.

its funny, when I was coaching a jr wreslting team,  if some one goofed off, every one was doing push ups...  Never had a kid talk back to me.  yet they would do it to thier parents.   funny how that works.

[Fatman]

Thanks everyone for the great input.  I've got some good leads, now time to do the homework.   

[coinstar]

you realy should look at fhn usa FNP-40, DAO, Matte Black Stainless http://www.fnhusa.com/le/products/firearms/model.asp?fid=FNF019&gid=FNG001&mid=FNM0060

never used one but hurd good thing

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[HAWKFISH]

I'm a little late getting on the post. But, I would recommend a Glock 23 (.40) or a Glock 21SF(.45). The G21SF is a newer version of the G21 ..which would be okay too. But, I love the G23 and that would be my top recommendation for you. You still get 13rds in a magazine..just like the G21.. but the G23 is tried and true and was one of the first Glocks out. I love mine.. so much.. if I had to choose and grab one handgun at a moments notice..it would be the G23. Accuracy is good.. not as good as some other Glocks..but darn close ..and still much better than most other gunmakers. I am biased for Glock ..yes. But, there is a reason for this biasedness. I havd owned and shot Sprinfield XD's and Smith & Wesson M&P's and while they are good..they at least at this time are not better than Glock. That is my opinion. But, I've had lots of shooting at the range and with other gun-buffs.. that have influenced me to go with Glock. Anyway, that's my recomendation.. if you do get a "non-1911..type gun..a polymer..etc".. make sure to keep the barrel clean and put at least about 500rds. through it before you consider it broke in.. good luck with you decision.   

[Fatman]

Thanks Hawk, et al. I've purchased and taken to the range an XD 45 duty length. My range goes to 50', so they have scaled targets  to compensate.

No surprise here - my natural motion brings the front sight high after over 20 yrs of 1911 only. That's the bad news. The good news is it wasn't a terrible adjustment to get on target. Even better, brand new the pistol seems to be a shooter out of the box, groups in the red at 50' with the scaled target.

[tombogan03884]

Sweet.

[Fatman]

OK, update on the 'shtf' scenario that got my beloved 1911s eliminated from duty. "No comment" on any real world details, but the company banned any lever safeties, decockers, single action revolvers ( SA revolvers for duty carry? Who did they think they were? Bat Masterson??) after training new hires in 2000 and auditing the results.  Bear in mind we supply personal sidearms.

Seems I was spot on with 'they didn't train with the weapon'. The instructors had multiple cases of trainees not swiping the safety off during drills - one young trainee actually stood there for fifteen seconds trying to mash the locked out trigger on a three foot drill  before complaining his pistol had broken.

So once again, the powers that be cater to the lowest common denominator. We can only use sidearms that 'require no thinking' in order to bring them into action.

Sorry, I don't consider it 'thinking' to release my safety. After so much familiarity, I consider it 'natural' and actually need to make sure I have the holster off my belt and in my weak hand before removing the pistol.  Else I flip the safety off without 'thinking'... every time.

[gunslinger9729]

Hi guys I just joined and say this seamed like a good one to start with. Doesnt this company know that all semi autos have some kind of safety or decocker today, they might want a no external leaver gun but I wouldnt want to shoot it unless it was a DAO. I thought that Ruger makes one but that it is only in 380. I looked at the replys and I think the guns that are recomended are great but I will put in my $20.00 worth too.{inflation} I would really look into the XD-M that is what I am giving my daughter.
that interchangeable everything makes it the most adjustable pistol I have ever seen for various sized hands and grips. It also can be changed to diferent frame sizes to match carry conditions. Since my son-in-law just went to bootcamp and she wanted protection that is what she got, and at a reasonable price too. Thanks for letting me join you. Geoff.