Ammunition Accountability Act

[SigShooter]

There's something that's been left out in all this discussion. Forensics can determine the which gun fired which bullet based on unique striations left on the bullet from the barrel and machine markings left on the case from the chamber, breech face and firing pin. The idea that unique SN's will drastically improve the science of the investigation is bs, and only works on those who don't know anything about current forensic science.

[MikeBjerum]

You miss the point that this is to cater to the lowest common denomenator of lazyness or lack of work ethic.  It is designed to make it so your grandmother could pick up a piece of evidence and a computer, and tie everything to the shooter ... Oooooops ... I missed the point    It is all about making ammo soooooooooooooo difficult and expensive to produce that we won't be able to find or afford it 

[tombogan03884]

There's something that's been left out in all this discussion. Forensics can determine the which gun fired which bullet based on unique striations left on the bullet from the barrel and machine markings left on the case from the chamber, breech face and firing pin. The idea that unique SN's will drastically improve the science of the investigation is bs, and only works on those who don't know anything about current forensic science.

Who do you think it's aimed at ? Who do you think is in the senate and congress ?

You miss the point that this is to cater to the lowest common denomenator of lazyness or lack of work ethic.  It is designed to make it so your grandmother could pick up a piece of evidence and a computer, and tie everything to the shooter ... Oooooops ... I missed the point    It is all about making ammo soooooooooooooo difficult and expensive to produce that we won't be able to find or afford it 

Ten ring 

[SigShooter]

Here's the way I'd argue against the AAA when writing to a senator, congressman, or anyone else who thinks this is a good idea.

First, the proposed purpose for this act as given by those who support it, is to enhance law enforcement investigations concerning crimes involving firearms. This must be exposed as unnessary before any arguements about it's real purpose can be made effectively.

Modern forensic science will be able to match the bullets and cases to the gun used to fire them. Forensic investigators can match any recovered bullets and cases to a particular firearm without the need for serial numbers on the bullets or cases.

Supposing the firearm was lost or not recovered, would just serialized bullets and cases be adequate evidence to do convict someone of murder? I think not, but I'm not an expert in criminal law. To my thinking, you can prove who owned the ammo but not who used the firearm that discharged the ammo.

Suppose you bought some AAA ammo and then decided you didn't need it so you gave it to a friend (undoubtly illegal under an AAA) to shoot at the range. Your friend finds out his wife was cheating on him and he shoots her. Your friend immediately gets rid of his gun where the police will never find it. Are you guilty of the murder since the bullets and cases were registered to you? At most, all you did was illegaly provide the ammo under the idea that it would be used legally.

Only after the problems with the purposed purpose of the law have been exposed can the arguements about it's true purpose enter into the discussion.

We know the real purpose is to increase the cost of ammunition to decrease the participation in lawful shooting sports and self-defense. By dropping the number of new shooters and increasing costs on the existing shooters, support for the lawfully armed general populace will decrease since fewer people will feel connected to the issue.

Back in day, hunters didn't feel connected to the newly invented term "assualt weapon," and a certian gun maker actively supported the ban. It's apathy that allowed the ban to go through without significant resistance.

The AAA is one part of a system designed to eradicate the Second Amendment and increase dependency on government, thereby promoting government powers and authorities.
 
With the destruction of the purposed reason for the AAA and the exposure of the true purpose, more of those who are on the fence or are open to pursuation can be brought to our side.

m58, I was just added a point to the arguement, not suggesting that everyone was wrong. I should have put this arguement together earlier rather than now.

Tom, you're right about those in congress. They are a bunch of idiots that couldn't find the toliet, let alone hit it, without the assistance of certain special interest groups. It's a shame one of them got elected president.

[runstowin]

Assuming AAA ammo actually works, there will be thefts of ammo by BGs so as to not be tied to the ammo, and to throw off an investigation of a shooting.

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[tombogan03884]

Assuming AAA ammo actually works, there will be thefts of ammo by BGs so as to not be tied to the ammo, and to throw off an investigation of a shooting.

There will probably be thefts of ammo by relatively GOOD guy's. I'm not SUGGESTING anything, just saying.

Google Dec. 15 1774, I don't know if you will find mention of it ,but the arms and ammo that the British marched out of Boston to seize in April of 1775 was, on that date, stolen by colonists, armed with a cannon, from Fort William and Mary, renamed Fort Constitution, in Portsmouth NH.

[runstowin]

Good point.