I have converted.

[Hazcat]

My Savage 30-06 has black plastic furniture and will shoot 300 plus and I have a 30 Carbine with a laser.  Do either of thses qualify? 

[m25operator]

Hazcat, the Savage definitely, the carbine, not quite, although it is reasonably accurate at 300, the power factor is way down at that range. 110 grain pill at the muzzle 2,000 fps. Charts say at 300, down to 1068 fps, basically 9mm parabellum @ 50 yards, the charts don't even go to 400 yrds for this bullet.

[Hazcat]

M25,

Actually I'd never think of using the carbine past 100.  It's my 'house' gun and a fun shooter.Now my Savage with the accutrigger....that's a "reach out and knock 'em in the dirt" gun. 

[Michael Bane]

I was talking to one of the guys at H-S Precision about building me a long-range rifle. The gunsmith finally said, "You know, Michael, I can build you a 1000-yard rifle, but that don't make you a 1000-yard rifleman..."

Michael B

[texcaliber]

My Savage 30-06 has black plastic furniture and will shoot 300 plus and I have a 30 Carbine with a laser.  Do either of thses qualify? 

if Bob Munden can shoot a snub nose 357 at 200yds and hit a balloon some one should be able to shoot 300yds. with a carbine. And a lazer to boot man, THATS A BIG OL' AFFIRMITIVE, YOUR IN Hazcat ! 

But then again as Michael quoted

......that don't make you a 1000-yard rifleman..."

And as a matter of fact i know more than a couple people who would get out-shot at 100yd. off hand with that 1000 yard gun Vs. my 1911 or even Glock 35. Give me one of those S&W 460 w/scope and the right ammo and we can pace it out to 200+ yards easy. 

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[tumblebug]

Have MINI 30 7.62X39  Looking@AR,S  Maybe  308

[m25operator]

Tex " I'm your huckleberry, long range pistols, that's just my game.". Truthfully that's why shooting is the best sport, no matter how good you get, we can always back up and make the target smaller. Sometimes competition seems more like a job, than fun, If I want to win, then I must concentrate and perform to someone elses dissatisfaction. Don't get me wrong, I like to win, but I have more fun after the match, shooting plates at 100 yards, or showing another shooter it can be done, and letting her or him do it for the first time, after showing them the technique. Shooting rams at 500 meters with and sks, or ak47, is more satisfying than doing it with my m40, one is expected, the other is an eye opener. I'm trying to have more fun these days.

[storm1911]

Does a new Bushmaster M4 count? Or a National Match M1-A with an E-2 stock, or an M1 Garand, or a couple of early model Mini's?

[texcaliber]

Does a new Bushmaster M4 count? Or a National Match M1-A with an E-2 stock, or an M1 Garand, or a couple of early model Mini's?

YUP, not only are you in but your on my dodgeball team man. 

[tumblebug]

Went Shoping Today for AR,S came home with a THOMPSON   [45ACPS]  RULE  Now I Need to Learn to RELOAD BAD