ALL GUN TRANSFERS TO BE TRACKED

[tombogan03884]

I see what you are getting at, If there is a warrant because you are suspected of bank robbery then you are not guilty YET.
But if it's for Failure to appear you must be guilty or you would have said no don't issue that.

[tt11758]

Then you understand that there has been "due process".  That is where the diffrence lies.

No, a warrant is merely an accusation of a crime.  Due process requires a conviction.

[Fatman]

Disclaimer: while TAB has every right to use my quote as his signature, I should mention it only holds true for the thread in which it was posted. 

[Pathfinder]

Disclaimer: while TAB has every right to use my quote as his signature, I should mention it only holds true for the thread in which it was posted. 

We understand, it's just Tab . . .   

[tombogan03884]

This is a copy of the letter I just sent to my congresswoman (Shea Porter    )

Support the Constitutionally guaranteed Civil rights of your constituents. Fight ALL anti gun rights legislation.
A bunch of people from states with more crime in a week than we have in a year, will be telling you a bunch of lies about,"It's for safety", and , "It's to cut crime". I would ask these people ,You have much stricter anti 2nd amendment laws in your state , why is your crime rate so much higher per capita ?
We teach Drivers Ed in schools to try to keep young drivers safe. We teach sex ed in our schools to try to limit teen pregnancy and STD exposure. If the issue were TRULY safety then the NRA or Boy Scouts would be teaching firearms safety in every school in America.
There is no such thing as "gun violence", there IS violent crime, sometimes it involves illegal use of a fire arm, but in more cases it involves use of clubs, knives, fists and feet. If "crime control" were truly the issue then why are these activists not going after violent offenders and the lenient judges who allow them back on the street to offend again ?  Why, after a violent crime do these people wish to disarm all the law abiding gun owners who DIDN'T do it ?
Gun control is not about guns, it's about control, and governments usurpation of powers they were never intended to have.
I'm sending you a link that I hope you will read and learn from. The man who compiled this information INTENTIONALLY AVOIDED using information from the NRA because he wanted no accusations of bias. The anti gun rights people can not match this type of VERIFIABLE information.

WWW.gunfacts.info

Thank you for your time and efforts to stop the bailout madness.

[Sponsor]

[tombogan03884]

Disclaimer: while TAB has every right to use my quote as his signature, I should mention it only holds true for the thread in which it was posted. 

I had wondered "What on earth was he thinking". 

[Rastus]

Back on topic a bit....gun transfers.  I'm transfering all of mine into a trust.  A trust is really easy to create...here in Oklahoma it's basically a form and a notary stamp.  What firearms aren't listed in the trust are later transferred into it. 

Unless something changes, there won't be a transfer of ownership for my weapons to my sons.  They will be named on the trust as trustees, as can be their children.  The trust never transfers ownership of the weapons...but the trustees are named in the trust as it's updated.

We've got to get smarter guys...and some of you may not want to use the same trust you may have used for your Class III items.

[alfsauve]

Rastus,

I had forgotten about using a corporation (trust) to own firearms.   Can you provide us with a link to a more detail discussion?

[Rastus]

Rastus,

I had forgotten about using a corporation (trust) to own firearms.   Can you provide us with a link to a more detail discussion?

I looked before and couldn't find anything that was really instructive.  Maybe someone else here has a good link or information to post.

[MikeBjerum]

When using trusts or corporations to protect or pre-transfer assets of any kind make sure you are aware of your State's rules.  In some cases a trust in itself can own personal property with no problem, but in some cases the individuals that own the trust (or named in the trust) are the owners.  Bottom line is that if those named in the trust are the owners you could end up going through transfers every time the trustors or trustees change. 

Also if the trust holds the firearms, what happens if one person in the trust loses their right to own or poses a firearm?  I know that we don't think anyone in our families would become a mass murderer, but what about a DWI or other driving issue that results in a fatality; a hunting law infraction with a firearm involved; or a personal disagreement that results in a restraining order.