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Brady Says: Not just tracked but REGISTERED
« on: January 09, 2009, 08:53:17 PM »
What better way to "register" all firearms but to have the manufacturers be responsible for the database.  Not only does that put the cost on them, but if they make a mistake, then the  BATF can shut them down for violation of federal regulations!

Just read this section of the Brady proposals.

"Tracing of crime guns is often cumbersome and unsuccessful because ATF must make contact first with the manufacturer, then with the distributor and dealer to complete a trace."   "ATF can streamline and significantly improve tracing by requiring dealers to report simple details about the sale of each gun to the manufacturer. This reporting requirement could also be applied to secondhand guns, which cannot now be traced because they have passed through unlicensed purchasers before being acquired and sold by the dealer."

So not only will the ATF have the NICs data, but just in case that becomes a sticky issue, they want to have the manufacturers maintain a database.   AND combined with EVERY SALE TRANSFER has to go through a dealer, then in no time you have a national registry.

SO, here's the game.  If they can't build gun registry out of NICS then they build it through the manufacturers.  If they only get 50% of their proposals......we loose!

OH DID I MENTION:  Brady doesn't think this requires a new law, but that ATF has the power to create a rule requiring this onerous record keeping!


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Re: Brady Says: Not just tracked but REGISTERED
« Reply #1 on: January 09, 2009, 08:59:00 PM »
 " Tom says F#@K Brady"
BSing people is easier than actually DOING something, because really doing something would require us to get off our high horse and actually JAIL criminals, many of whom voted for our guy.

Oh, BTW, Didn't some one say something about "throwing off the yoke of tyranny"
We better start eating our Wheaties and seriously considering how important we consider the Constitution as opposed to safety, job, and comfort.

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Re: Brady Says: Not just tracked but REGISTERED
« Reply #2 on: January 09, 2009, 09:02:31 PM »
BSing people is easier than actually DOING something

Congress coined that phrase long before you did, Tom
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Re: Brady Says: Not just tracked but REGISTERED
« Reply #3 on: January 09, 2009, 09:04:04 PM »
" Tom says F#@K Brady"
BSing people is easier than actually DOING something, because really doing something would require us to get off our high horse and actually JAIL criminals, many of whom voted for our guy.

We had model citizen minorities here committing armed robbery while wearing Obama tee shirts  And my county still voted Obama.  ::)

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Me: Naw, we just apply a gun-shaped remedy to those extreme life threatening situations that call for it. All the less urgent problems we're willing to discuss.

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Re: Brady Says: Not just tracked but REGISTERED
« Reply #4 on: January 09, 2009, 09:04:41 PM »
Congress coined that phrase long before you did, Tom

Horace Greely said "Go west young man" I say go into politics, you can screw more people than Long Dong Silver !

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Re: Brady Says: Not just tracked but REGISTERED
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Re: Brady Says: Not just tracked but REGISTERED
« Reply #5 on: January 11, 2009, 09:52:30 PM »
Horace Greely said "Go west young man" I say go into politics, you can screw more people than Long Dong Silver !

And have some people still want you to kiss their babies!
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Re: Brady Says: Not just tracked but REGISTERED
« Reply #6 on: January 12, 2009, 05:09:29 AM »
I don't know if some of you grasped the sneakiness of this proposal!

The ATF is forbidden by law from maintaining a gun registry.   

HOWEVER, they are trying to work around that, by having the manufacturer maintain the database for them!
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Re: Brady Says: Not just tracked but REGISTERED
« Reply #7 on: January 12, 2009, 08:38:40 AM »
I don't know if some of you grasped the sneakiness of this proposal!

The ATF is forbidden by law from maintaining a gun registry.   

HOWEVER, they are trying to work around that, by having the manufacturer maintain the database for them!

Sadly Alf, the gun companies are already doing that. Every time you send your warranty card in, the companies add you to a database. The intention is not to have a 'registry', per se, but the result is the same.  :(
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Re: Brady Says: Not just tracked but REGISTERED
« Reply #8 on: January 12, 2009, 11:07:44 AM »
I'd be careful about about being registered, because one day when Uncle Sam decides to repeal the 2nd, the registry will tell them who's door to kick in first.

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Re: Brady Says: Not just tracked but REGISTERED
« Reply #9 on: January 12, 2009, 11:31:42 AM »
I'd be careful about about being registered, because one day when Uncle Sam decides to repeal the 2nd, the registry will tell them who's door to kick in first.

Thats how it worked in England, Australia, and Ca.

 

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