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How many rounds is my guiderod good for in a Hawg?
« on: January 10, 2009, 11:01:07 PM »
...because I have a feeling by the time I fully break it in, my guide rod is pretty well shot? 500 rounds is my guess.  ???
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Re: How many rounds is my guiderod good for in a Hawg?
« Reply #1 on: January 11, 2009, 12:06:27 AM »
They have to last longer then that? I mean, my original stock Glsok guide rod had more than 500. I only replaced it as and for and with an upgrade or better one...

But I'll be curious to read and see what other replies might say?
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Re: How many rounds is my guiderod good for in a Hawg?
« Reply #2 on: January 11, 2009, 08:49:12 AM »
Finally found it in my 5th rephrased google search. 

800 - 1000 rounds, the part is all one piece. Figured I'd post for others with the pistol.
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Re: How many rounds is my guiderod good for in a Hawg?
« Reply #3 on: January 11, 2009, 08:57:40 AM »
 ???  Is it made of plastic or something?  Maybe just my experience, but I've NEVER had to replace a guiderod in a handgun.  The guiderod in my Infiinity has seen no less than 35,000 rounds.  I had a Glock 35 with 75K rounds and no need to replace the guiderod (which is plastic). 

The spring will need replacement, but rarely the guiderod, at least in my experience.  I'd be interested in knowing why 1000 rounds is considered an outside limit for this gun's guiderod.

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Re: How many rounds is my guiderod good for in a Hawg?
« Reply #4 on: January 11, 2009, 09:46:33 AM »
???  Is it made of plastic or something?  Maybe just my experience, but I've NEVER had to replace a guiderod in a handgun.  The guiderod in my Infiinity has seen no less than 35,000 rounds.  I had a Glock 35 with 75K rounds and no need to replace the guiderod (which is plastic). 

The spring will need replacement, but rarely the guiderod, at least in my experience.  I'd be interested in knowing why 1000 rounds is considered an outside limit for this gun's guiderod.

jr

the guide rod / springs are all one piece.  Springs are 25lb, and from shooting it, I can tell you that component is getting stomped on hard. Front piece of the assembly is plastic, the rod is not. Guess the springs go under the pounding, so the whole component gets replaced.

Please don't tell me someone thought a plastic guide rod is a good thing...
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Re: How many rounds is my guiderod good for in a Hawg?
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Re: How many rounds is my guiderod good for in a Hawg?
« Reply #5 on: January 11, 2009, 10:27:50 AM »
Ah, gotcha.  One-piece like the Glock guiderod/spring assembly, huh?  Still, a 25-lb spring is going to have a fair lifetime.  I run 12-lb springs, and they last about 10-12K rounds.

Glock thought it was a good thing.  They work great.
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Re: How many rounds is my guiderod good for in a Hawg?
« Reply #6 on: January 11, 2009, 10:33:28 AM »
...because I have a feeling by the time I fully break it in, my guide rod is pretty well shot? 500 rounds is my guess.  ???

Straight out of the Hawg Manual...probably due to the twin spring design of the Hawg's guide rod.  I read this before I bought one and decided on a Commander size instead.


Recoil Spring Assembly - Maintenance Interval

"The recoil spring assembly consists of the outer and inner
recoil springs (Parts 37A and 37B), the recoil spring inner
and outer guide rods, and the recoil spring guide plate (Parts
38A-C). The recoil spring assembly should be replaced every
800 to 1000 rounds when using standard velocity ammunition.
The use of higher velocity ammunition will decrease the life of
the springs and necessitate replacement earlier."

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Re: How many rounds is my guiderod good for in a Hawg?
« Reply #7 on: January 11, 2009, 11:29:03 AM »
Straight out of the Hawg Manual...probably due to the twin spring design of the Hawg's guide rod.  I read this before I bought one and decided on a Commander size instead.


Recoil Spring Assembly - Maintenance Interval

"The recoil spring assembly consists of the outer and inner
recoil springs (Parts 37A and 37B), the recoil spring inner
and outer guide rods, and the recoil spring guide plate (Parts
38A-C). The recoil spring assembly should be replaced every
800 to 1000 rounds when using standard velocity ammunition.
The use of higher velocity ammunition will decrease the life of
the springs and necessitate replacement earlier."

Now I've got to find somewhere to buy an assembly, lol
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Re: How many rounds is my guiderod good for in a Hawg?
« Reply #8 on: January 11, 2009, 12:24:54 PM »
Now I've got to find somewhere to buy an assembly, lol

I've had no problems dealing direct with Para using their contact email.  They always get right back to me with the information I request.  No doubt they stock the assemblies considering it's used in all of their 3" bull barrel pistols.  Shouldn't be very expensive either.

I got the impression they were moving the operation to SC from FL, maybe Mr. Bane can clarify.

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Re: How many rounds is my guiderod good for in a Hawg?
« Reply #9 on: January 11, 2009, 03:41:26 PM »
Yeah, they gave me an extra for my p12 gratis. I'm guessing they will be reasonable on the hawg too. I was looking on the web for one, no luck.
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