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http://www.nebraska.tv/Global/story.asp?S=9675574

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Nebraska cities that ban concealed weapons have no right to do so, according to Attorney General Jon Bruning.

His opinion issued Wednesday flies in the face of what many communities believed.

Hastings Police Chief Larry Thoren said, "It's imperative local communities make decisions locally."

These communities thought there was no problem enacting their own gun bans.

State Senator Mark Christensen asked for the attorney general's opinion. He said he did it to protect gun rights for those driving across the state, who pass through a town with a ban like Kearney.

Christensen said, "Somebody drove down the interstate, in the city of Kearney they got caught, they'd prosecute on the interstate. That's how much authority they thought they had and I thought that was going too far."

City leaders are taken aback. But Bruning's opinion is just that; It doesn't change anything, but a judge could.

Christensen said, "I think some cities will say 'I'm going to snub my nose at that opinion and I'm going to make somebody challenge this in court.'"

If it doesn't end up in court, lawmakers will likely take another look at it, after talking with cities.

Christensen said, "If someone wants city exemptions, they'll bring a bill or something to change it so there are exemptions."

Bruning said, "I think the law here is clear. I want to work this out with the League of Municipalities and do it the best way we can for everyone."

Cities like Hastings are taken aback, believing the law allowed them to enact their own bans.

Terry Copple of Hastings testified in support of the law originally. He said this is good news for gun owners who want to protect themselves.

Reporter's Notes by Steve White:
Christensen said the opinion should help law-abiding citizens who carry concealed weapons with a permit. Bruning said, "It hasn't brought about Armageddon, it won't and in my opinion it really only affects those who are law abiding. Bad guys aren't asking permission to conceal their guns. Who we're talking about are people who care enough to go register and abide by the law in the first place."

Hastings City Administrator Joe Patterson said the city's law was on the books before the state law. He said the issues will likely be "decided by someone wearing a robe."
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Re: Nebraska Attorney General: Local communities cannot ban concealed carry
« Reply #1 on: January 15, 2009, 11:21:27 PM »
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Hastings City Administrator Joe Patterson said the city's law was on the books before the state law. He said the issues will likely be "decided by someone wearing a robe."
That definitely makes things more difficult.  I'm not sure if any state "preemption" would apply.  It also depends what the law for the territory was before statehood.
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Re: Nebraska Attorney General: Local communities cannot ban concealed carry
« Reply #2 on: January 16, 2009, 01:26:47 AM »
I believe that ,as federal law has precedent over state law, so does state law supersede a local ordnance

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Re: Nebraska Attorney General: Local communities cannot ban concealed carry
« Reply #3 on: January 16, 2009, 01:59:57 PM »
My state has got this on lock down..... loony liberals need not bother!

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SECTION 23-31-510. Prohibition against regulation of certain matters.

No governing body of any county, municipality, or other political subdivision in this State may enact or promulgate any regulation or ordinance which regulates or attempts to regulate the transfer, ownership, possession, carrying, or transportation of firearms, ammunition, components of firearms, or any combination of these things.


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SECTION 23-31-520. Power to regulate public use of firearms; confiscation of firearms or ammunition.

This article denies any county, municipality, or political subdivision the power to confiscate a firearm or ammunition unless incident to an arrest.
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Re: Nebraska Attorney General: Local communities cannot ban concealed carry
« Reply #4 on: January 16, 2009, 08:44:27 PM »
As a native Nebraskan, this rocks, hopefully it will make some of these uniformed politicians sit down and think, the Lincoln Journal Star also quoted  the Beatrice, Nebraska police chief who is against gun owner rights, the same police chief who recently had information come to light that helped send six innocent people to prison for almost twenty years on a murder conviction with coeireced testimony. 

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Re: Nebraska Attorney General: Local communities cannot ban concealed carry
« Reply #5 on: January 18, 2009, 01:44:31 PM »
to be sure though the problem lies in when the particular statute was enacted.  Is the law "grandfathered" law, or is there such a thing in this instance.  As was stated the law was in effect before the statehood.  so does it still stand or does the states preemption clause has precedence?
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Re: Nebraska Attorney General: Local communities cannot ban concealed carry
« Reply #6 on: January 18, 2009, 11:54:03 PM »
All I know is that when I am finished with Law School I am going to pursue a lawsuit against states that prohibit concealed carry permits under Article IV under the full faith and credit clause. I dont' know how, but I will figure it so that the Supreme Court of the United States has to listen. ;)

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Re: Nebraska Attorney General: Local communities cannot ban concealed carry
« Reply #7 on: January 19, 2009, 01:31:25 AM »
All I know is that when I am finished with Law School I am going to pursue a lawsuit against states that prohibit concealed carry permits under Article IV under the full faith and credit clause. I dont' know how, but I will figure it so that the Supreme Court of the United States has to listen. ;)

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and you will lose.

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Re: Nebraska Attorney General: Local communities cannot ban concealed carry
« Reply #8 on: January 19, 2009, 08:17:07 AM »
and you will lose.



Glad Heller didnt think like you, TAB

The problem is that you have to challenge concealed carry laws and try to win in each and every state. It is 100% a state issue. The US supreme court prob would refuse to hear the case and it would have to be determined at the state level supreme courts.
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Re: Nebraska Attorney General: Local communities cannot ban concealed carry
« Reply #9 on: January 19, 2009, 09:25:48 AM »
and you will lose.

Not if worded properly. Custer probably thought the same thing about the indians when he came for a fight. I think it could be done, many people thought slavery could not be overturned...

I am not equating the two, I am saying that a tough fight can still be won in a courtroom if properly worded.

After all Plessy v. Furgeson was the SCOTUS precedence to deny Brown v. Board of Education.

 

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