Author Topic: OBTAING A CCW PERMIT IN ERIE COUNTY PA - BEST CCW WEAPON FOR DISABLED PERSON  (Read 23637 times)

ericire12

  • Top Forum Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 7926
  • DRTV Ranger
  • Liked:
  • Likes Given: 0
That will get the job done..... buy some speed loaders too
Everything I needed to learn in life I learned from Country Music.

tombogan03884

  • Guest
Charter Arms also has their "Patriot" in .327 . While I prefer Ruger for revolvers the Charter may be less expensive.

Fatman

  • Top Forum Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 1454
  • Liked:
  • Likes Given: 0
MB has stated often - check with a local lawyer before doing anything, find out the laws, the "willingness" of the local police to support or hinder you.

Looks like PA is a "may" issue state, not a shall issue state. I found this on the PA State Police web site at http://www.psp.state.pa.us/psp/cwp/browse.asp?a=15&bc=0&c=70426:

"The sheriff has 45 days to conduct an investigation to determine an individual's eligibility to be issued a license.  Included in the investigation is a background check conducted on the individual through the Pennsylvania Instant Check System (PICS) to determine if the records indicate the individual is prohibited by law. In accordance with 18 PA C.S. ยง6109, a sheriff may deny an individual the right to a License to Carry Firearms if there is reason to believe that the character and reputation of the individual are such that they would be likely to act in a manner dangerous to public safety.
 
If the PICS check is approved and the subject is of good character, the sheriff may (Pathfinder: emphasis mine) issue a License to Carry Firearms.   The issuance of a License to Carry Firearms allows individuals to carry a firearm concealed on or about their person, or in a vehicle throughout this Commonwealth.  The license is valid for a period of five (5) years unless sooner revoked."

Good luck.

We are a shall issue state. Here's a good summary from the Pennsylvania Firearms Owner's Association:

Quote
The process for obtaining an LTCF in Pennsylvania is excellent due to the fact that the process is very thorough in making sure that permits are not granted to people that may be irresponsible or pose a danger to others (minors, convicted felons, domestic abusers, etc.) while making it very simple for trustworthy, law-abiding people to obtain one quickly and cheaply.

Pennsylvania LTCF's are available to both residents and non-residents and are valid for 5 years. For residents, the applications are handled by their county sheriff's office, with the exception of Philadelphia where they are handled by the Gun Permits & Tracking Unit of the Philadelphia Police Department. It should be noted that permits issued by one county must be honored by all counties including Philadelphia regardless of rumors to the contrary.

The actual application process itself is very simple and consists of acquiring an application, and a passport-sized photo, filling it out, paying the fee (which can vary from county to county) and submitting it. In some counties (such as Philadelphia) the application must be submitted in person and they may do a quick and basic interview. Once the application is received the entity responsible for handling it will do a background check on you and generally verify who you are. They may contact the references you have provided on the application although many times it will not be necessary. Pennsylvania is a "shall-issue" state in regards to LTCF's, meaning the entity processing your application is required to approve it unless they can prove you are disqualified based on the law. This is very important to prevent localities from simply denying people based on political, or prejudicial biases. Additionally by state law the application must be approved or denied in 45 days (although some offices will use "business days"). Again, this is done to prevent localities from claiming they issue permits, but never actually processing them for political or prejudicial reasons.

Anti: I think some of you gentleman would choose to apply a gun shaped remedy to any problem or potential problem that presented itself? Your reverance (sic) for firearms is maintained with an almost religious zeal. The mind boggles! it really does...

Me: Naw, we just apply a gun-shaped remedy to those extreme life threatening situations that call for it. All the less urgent problems we're willing to discuss.

dsawi52695

  • Forum Member
  • **
  • Posts: 28
  • Liked:
  • Likes Given: 0

Hi Everyome:

Given the situation, which weapon would be a better choice?  The Ruger SP101 chambered in .327 Federal or the Taurus 4410 "The Judge.  (Pros and cons of both please)  If not these particular weapons.  Which would be best, and why?

Thank you again for your time, consideration, and cooperation. I hope to hear from you soon,

David

tombogan03884

  • Guest
While I'm no fan of the Judge, the 410 buckshot loads would give less chance of over penetrating and hitting some one/ something, you did not intend while giving you the ability to also fire .45 Colt which will serve as well as any other hand gun caliber on the market, however, the .327 will be easier to control allowing for faster follow up shots. .327 Ammo is still in RELITIVELY limited supply, but this will likely change as more pistols are chambered for it and demand increases.

Sponsor

  • Guest

PegLeg45

  • NRA Life, SAF, Constitutionalist
  • Top Forum Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 13268
  • DRTV Ranger
  • Liked:
  • Likes Given: 1382
David,
Having spent some time in a wheelchair, I too had to grapple with the CCW problem while confined. I actually carried several different ways from in the breast pocket of a pair of overalls (Junior Samples anyone?) to attaching an Uncle Mikes Kydex holster to the inside arm of the wheelchair (so the gun was concealed between me and the chair).

I think the .327 has a lot of promise but I agree with what Tom said about ammo selection, which is why I would probably go with the Ruger. But I'd probably go with .357 so I could use .38 specials for better ammo selection.

Just my two dull pennies on the subject.

 8)

"I expect perdition, I always have. I keep this building at my back, and several guns handy, in case perdition arrives in a form that's susceptible to bullets. I expect it will come in the disease form, though. I'm susceptible to diseases, and you can't shoot a damned disease." ~ Judge Roy Bean, Streets of Laredo

For the Patriots of this country, the Constitution is second only to the Bible for most. For those who love this country, but do not share my personal beliefs, it is their Bible. To them nothing comes before the Constitution of these United States of America. For this we are all labeled potential terrorists. ~ Dean Garrison

"When it comes to the enemy, just because they ain't pullin' a trigger, doesn't mean they ain't totin' ammo for those that are."~PegLeg

ericire12

  • Top Forum Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 7926
  • DRTV Ranger
  • Liked:
  • Likes Given: 0
Agree.... .327 is probably a deal breaker for the next 1-2 years because of regards to ammo (maybe forever if it does not catch on). I would go with .357 or .38 +p revolver
Everything I needed to learn in life I learned from Country Music.

ellis4538

  • Top Forum Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 3455
  • DRTV Ranger
  • Liked:
  • Likes Given: 0
You might look at a good knife or two and an impact weapon plus training with both.

Richard
Used to be "The only thing to FEAR was FEAR ITSELF", nowadays "The only thing to FEAR is GETTING CAUGHT!"

tombogan03884

  • Guest
You might look at a good knife or two and an impact weapon plus training with both.

Richard

I have never been movement impaired, so I have to ask is that a practical avenue for someone confined to a wheel chair ?

TAB

  • DRTV Rangers
  • Top Forum Member
  • *
  • Posts: 10219
  • Liked:
  • Likes Given: 103
I would not get the 327. even if its every thing its hiped up to be( nothing ever is) I would still rather have a 357 mag or 38+p for two reasons:

1 ammo is going to be alot cheaper/ easier to find.  Now and in the future

2 its has proven to be an effective tool.




As far as the judge, I don't think its a good choice for you do to you lack of mobilty.  410 out of a short barrel is not exactly a man stoper. Its great for when you want some one to stop so you can run away( great anti car jacking weapon.)  You can't run away.
The 45 colt on the other hands is a very powerful round, there are better platforms for 45 colt then the judge.
I always break all the clay pigeons,  some times its even with lead.

 

SMF spam blocked by CleanTalk