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Re: Roll of honor and roll of shame
« Reply #10 on: February 03, 2009, 06:26:29 PM »
Who is putting the Salt Peter in the GOP's water?

I think its a conspiracy..........Did most of the testicular fortitude in the GOP leave the building? ,,,Like Elvis..?

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Re: Roll of honor and roll of shame
« Reply #11 on: February 03, 2009, 06:53:19 PM »
Here is a brief note I just sent out to both of my Georgia Senators:

Dear Sir,

I was deeply disappointed to see that both of my Senators from Georgia voted their approval for the confirmation of Eric Holder for Attorney General. Mr. Holder is known to be blatantly unfriendly towards gun owners and proponents of our God-given right to keep and bear arms, which was recently upheld by the Supreme Court.
I sincerely hope that the selection and approval of Mr. Holder for this position does not spell discord for the rights of free Americans to own and shoot the very firearms that have made and kept us free for over two hundred years.
If it does, it will be remembered at the next election.

Charles Goins, Jr.
Ty Ty, Ga.

"I expect perdition, I always have. I keep this building at my back, and several guns handy, in case perdition arrives in a form that's susceptible to bullets. I expect it will come in the disease form, though. I'm susceptible to diseases, and you can't shoot a damned disease." ~ Judge Roy Bean, Streets of Laredo

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Re: Roll of honor and roll of shame
« Reply #12 on: February 05, 2009, 05:50:25 PM »
Here is the reply I received today regarding the note in the last post from Senator Chambliss (R-Ga.).....:


Dear Mr. Goins:

 Thank you for contacting me regarding the nomination of Eric Holder to become Attorney General under the Obama Administration.  It is good to hear from you.

  President Obama nominated Mr. Holder to be the Attorney General on December 1, 2008 and he was confirmed by the Senate on February 2, 2009.  I believe the President deserves great deference in filling his Cabinet. (emphasis mine)
While Mr. Holder and I have differences on policy and judicial theories, I supported Mr. Holder because of his great experience and because I believe he can competently fill the role for which he has been nominated. Mr. Holder has previously been unanimously confirmed to judicial positions by the United States Senate on three separate occasions. In 1988, he was nominated by President Ronald Reagan to be associate Judge of the Superior Court of the District of Columbia. In 1993, President Clinton nominated Mr. Holder to be the U.S. Attorney for the District of Columbia, and in 1997, President Clinton nominated him to be Deputy Attorney General of the United States.

 Although I continue to have concerns with some of Mr. Holder's policy views, particularly his view of the Second Amendment, after speaking with him, I am convinced he recognizes that the Supreme Court's decision in District of Columbia v. Heller, recognizing the Second Amendment right to be an individual right, to be the law of the land.

 Moreover, I believe that if any changes will be made to our country's gun policies, they will be made by Congress or the court system, and not the Department of Justice. I also had serious concerns about the role Mr. Holder played in the pardons of Marc Rich and members of the FALN group when he was at the Department of Justice. These pardons have been nearly universally condemned by the entire legal community. In his testimony before the Senate Judiciary Committee, Mr. Holder fully recognized his mistakes in those pardons and stated if he had to do it again, he would have done things differently. I believe he will take that learning experience with him into his role as Attorney General.

  I have closely scrutinized Mr. Holder's nomination by reviewing his testimony from the Judiciary Committee and personally questioning him.  I believe Mr. Holder is qualified for the position of Attorney General.  Again, although I do not agree with a number of the positions Mr. Holder has taken in the past, I believe that Presidents, including President Obama, should be given deference in filling their Cabinet.

                                                                                                                                             

If you would like to receive timely email alerts regarding the latest congressional actions and my weekly e-newsletter, please sign up via my web site at: www.chambliss.senate.gov

Please let me know whenever I may be of assistance.

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For the Patriots of this country, the Constitution is second only to the Bible for most. For those who love this country, but do not share my personal beliefs, it is their Bible. To them nothing comes before the Constitution of these United States of America. For this we are all labeled potential terrorists. ~ Dean Garrison

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Re: Roll of honor and roll of shame
« Reply #13 on: February 05, 2009, 07:28:44 PM »
I know there are a lot of you with only one vote, but Minnesota is supposed to have TWO!!!  The one we have voted yes of course, but if we only had our other one in place to offset her we wouldn't look as bad  :'(
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Re: Roll of honor and roll of shame
« Reply #14 on: February 05, 2009, 07:32:48 PM »
Anti-gun Eric Holder Sworn In As Attorney General
-- See who stabbed you in the back

Gun Owners of America E-Mail Alert
8001 Forbes Place, Suite 102, Springfield, VA 22151
Phone: 703-321-8585 / FAX: 703-321-8408
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Wednesday, February 4, 2009

GOA wants to thank all of you for your hard work in opposing the
extremely anti-gun Eric Holder for Attorney General.

While we lost the battle on Monday (by a vote of 75-21), you guys
registered your opposition loud and clear.

There is no doubt that your activism truly made gun rights THE issue in
this nomination battle. Every Senator who spoke against Holder
mentioned Second Amendment fears. And even among many of the Senators
who voted for him, there was tremendous concern regarding Holder's
stance on gun rights.

As stated by The Washington Post yesterday, "Holder overcame concerns by
a small but vocal group of GOP lawmakers about his position on national
security and GUN RIGHTS, as well as his recommendations in two
controversial clemency decisions by President Bill Clinton."

This was truly a battle worth fighting. In fact, the man who was being
deified two weeks ago is now the very same President who is widely seen
as not being able to shoot straight in selecting cabinet members and is
already starting to lose public support. The battle over Holder was
certainly central to taking the bloom off this rose.

So thank you for helping magnify our voice on Capitol Hill. GOA spent
many hours lobbying against Holder, as we were the only gun rights group
in Washington to tell Senators we would be rating this vote in our
end-of-session grade report.

With Holder in office, you can expect to see renewed efforts to drive
gun dealers and manufacturers out of business -- similar to the efforts
he supported while in the Clinton administration.

Expect also to see attempts to classify more guns as "not
suitable" for
sporting purposes. And don't be surprised to see attempts to use the No
Fly List to disqualify gun owners from exercising their Second Amendment
rights. (Bureaucrats can add innocent Americans to the No Fly List --
and have done so -- without any due process of law being followed.)

With Eric Holder at the helm, the list could easily become a No Gun
List, as there are already discussions in Washington about doing this.

All the above horror scenarios are policies that could conceivably occur
without ANY legislation being passed in Congress. That is what makes
Holder's confirmation as Attorney General so dangerous. Through the use
of Executive Orders or by prosecuting gun owners, Holder can inflict
much damage upon the Second Amendment -- even apart from lending his
support for legislation, such as renewing the semi-auto ban.

So what can we do now? Is the battle over Holder finished?

No, not yet. There's one more action item that needs to be taken.
There are 75 Senators who ignored your pleas to vote against Holder.
They need to hear from you and know that you're upset.

They need to be reminded again and again that voting for gun control is
what cost Bill Clinton's party the control of Congress in 1994... and Al
Gore his election in 2000... and John Kerry the presidency in 2004.

And don't forget, there are the 21 Senators who voted right. They need
to be thanked. So please don't file this alert until you've taken the
action item below.

ACTION: Please use the Gun Owners Legislative Action Center at
http://www.gunowners.org/activism.htm to send your Senators a
pre-written e-mail message. You will be prompted to input your zip
code, which will then bring up the correct letter for your Senators.

The pre-written letter will differ according to whether your Senator
voted in favor or against Eric Holder. (Three Senators missed the vote
entirely. GOA is treating their absence as an anti-gun action.)

NOTE: GOA's pre-written letters are usually editable by the sender. In
this instance, they are not for the sake of avoiding confusion, so that
Senators who voted wrong are not thanked (and vice versa).

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Re: Roll of honor and roll of shame
« Reply #15 on: Today at 06:21:46 AM »

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Re: Roll of honor and roll of shame
« Reply #15 on: February 05, 2009, 07:34:24 PM »
Just received the same reply myself from Chambliss.   

Nah,  doesn't hack it.  Saxby bought political capital by not opposing the nomination, rather than standing up and being counted.

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Re: Roll of honor and roll of shame
« Reply #16 on: February 05, 2009, 08:24:11 PM »
 Isn't this "Chamblis" character the one you guys were glad beat the Dem in a recount ? Just goes to show, members of BOTH major parties have lost sight of their purpose under the Constitution. We have not had a viable 3rd party candidate since Lincoln in 1860, maybe we should look into changing that for 2012.
By the way, was reading another blog today that mentioned that Micheal Steele, new head of the RNC was the only one of the 4 candidates who does not own at least one gun.  :(

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Re: Roll of honor and roll of shame
« Reply #17 on: February 05, 2009, 08:42:15 PM »
Please allow an outsider to make a comment.

Unless you guys over there get active, get motivated, get behind your NRA all you will be getting is screwed and not in a nice way.

The writing has been on the board for a long time and for a long time a lot of you (not you guys personally, firearm owners in general) have laughed at the happenings to England and to Australia and thought "that would never happen here, we have our second amendment to protect us, thank god for that". Well its morning time and well and truly past the point of smelling roses.
That funny noise that sounds like a bath emptying is the sound of your rights going down the gurglar.
First it will be licences, then registration, then more restrictive legislation, and before you know it you may as well come over here and live with us and be happy with your bolt action rifles (no semi or full auto allowed), be happy with your pistol and revolvers as long as they dont exceed a certain calibre or below a certain length.............

One thing at least you have a NRA, not a watered down bunch of knuckleheads that couldnt see the grass but for the trees.
Goodluck, you will need it.
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Re: Roll of honor and roll of shame
« Reply #18 on: February 05, 2009, 09:11:32 PM »
Face it, both parties have sold the American people out, and the Constitution will be little more than a cultural artifact in 10-15 years at the outside. There was discussion along these lines last summer as we stampeded toward the election, notably the real lack of difference between bho and mccain.

For me, it goes back to JFK's assassination, which basically taught every American president since that if the President really pisses some people off, someone can get to the President, and like in JFK's case, can get away with it - unless you really believe that the scrawny loser Oswald was really that good with a bolt action surplus rifle at a moving target moving down, left and away from the shooter.

One World Gummint, here we come.
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Re: Roll of honor and roll of shame
« Reply #19 on: February 05, 2009, 10:00:07 PM »
Unless you guys over there get active, get motivated, get behind your NRA all you will be getting is screwed and not in a nice way.

I just wrote both my liberal Senators...

I am really bothered by what seems to be going on in the Capitol of this fine nation. I read how nearly a trillion dollars is going to be spent on “Stimulating” the economy. As a conservative I am repulsed by the rhetoric that seems all too prevalent in pushing a check towards every liberal lobby group that can be found. Please don’t misinterpret my frustration as being only with the Democrat party, I am equally frustrated with a number of Republican and other parties.


To think for a moment that in my household I could solve all my problems by trying to spend my way out of it is ridiculous. I am not sure if anyone in DC has an economics degree, but it seems as though only a few in the House and Senate seem to have the slightest clue how to manage even a household income. I have seen lobby after lobby line up at the feeding trough to get bailed out of their bad decisions, from banks to home buyers that couldn’t afford the house in the first place. This is irresponsible to reward their bad behavior. Having seen abject poverty firsthand in my own life, it is corrosive to remove the just consequences of someone’s actions; it only encourages the bad behavior.

On an additional note, I see that you supported the new Attorney General who has a history of being anti-2nd amendment.  I am not clinging to guns and religion, but I am bothered by anyone who would actively support legislation that would resurrect the attempts the British made at Concord and Lexington.  I would hope that you would understand that this is one of the founding principles of this great nation and was inserted in the Constitution of the United States by men who saw firsthand how vital the right to keep and bear arms would be in order to defend freedom.

I hope that you vote against this "stimulus" package and against anything that would erode the rights of every law abiding citizen of the United States of America.

 

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