The better SIG?

[texcaliber]

thanks for the info Michael, I guess there is  the collection factor of the folded over the milled. But for me the only reason for a SIG is a working firearm. Now that my SC1911 is running flawless the 220 is a "left-it-gun" and I am finding it very hard to find a reason to shoot it.
As for:

There was a VERY secret study done by a major firearms company about a decade ago that concluded most handguns were fired less than 100 rounds in their entire working life.

That firearm company never met me or my buddies. Come the winter months the round drops as to be expected but the fair weather tends to see around 200(compitition only) - 1,000(compitition,sight ins,pratice,test&Evals for customers/boss,ect....) rds. per week. And thats not including the dryfiring. (Need a math major to figure that # out)   

Tex

[Hazcat]

This brings up an interesting point.

Now I typically shoot 400-500 rounds a month of 9mm or 45ACP ammo and 50-100 of 5.56 for practice.
Add 75-100 rounds at a monthly IDPA match.

What's everybody else habit?

I do  about 150 or so 9mm, 100 or so 380, 300 45 colt, and 600 22 plus maybe some 30 (~50-100) carbine and a few (~20) 30-06.  (and I am nowhere near as good as that should make me  )

Oh, and that does not count OPA.

[texcaliber]

I just got off the phone with the "pier" that some guy told him "they were better". Well he was in a huff and started boohooing that MB doesnt know squat and the folded guns are W A Y ! better. "Now hold on" says I. I quickly informed/reminded him "who gets paid for his opinions" and it sure was not us. Next its an opinion. The only reason he didn't like it was it mirrored mine not his. Now, about the SIGs balance and better triggers out of the box. I have not a clue. I do now one thing, the newer SIGs are the only frames that the DAK triggers can be fitted to. So now another armed buddy who is prob. stroking his prefered gun, mumbling non repeatable sayings and slanders of me.
Oh well, can not please 'em all. 

Tex

[Hazcat]

So now another armed buddy who is prob. stroking his prefered gun, mumbling non repeatable sayings and slanders of me.
Oh well, can not please 'em all. 

Tex

Yeah, I'd heard you were a miserable ol' cuss any ways so don't let it bother ya. 

[WILLIAM A FARLEY Jr.]

 ::)WELL, I THINK YOU GUY SHOULD KNOW. REMEMBER YOUR FIRST SIG? IT LIKE A WOMAN. YOU TAKE GO CARE OF HER...AND SHE TAKE GOOD CARE OF YOU. IT IS LIKE A MARRIED. I BROUGHT MY MY FIRST SIG...P-220 STAINLESS. IN 1989. AFTER THE DEPARTMENT HAVE CHANGE. FROM MY COLT PHYTON 357 MAG 6 INCHES..I TOOK GOOD CARE OF HER. NOW I HAVE A NEW GIRLFRIEND. MY P-220 IS A LONG RELATION. NOW I OWNED 3 SIG? THE BETTER SIG...HAVE YOU WANT MAKE YOUR OLD GIRL ON TUNE UP AND BEEF UP. THAT I CALL A BETTER SIG!

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[JohnJacobH]

There was a VERY secret study done by a major firearms company about a decade ago that concluded most handguns were fired less than 100 rounds in their entire working life.
 

True story. I was hanging around my local gunshop when a "middle aged" man brought in a Browning 9mm to put on consignment for sale.

He bought it  circa 1966 when things in this country seemed to be heating up into some kind of shooting confrontation.

When he put his kit out on the counter, it had the handgun in it's original cardboard box, a tin box cleaning kit, a 50 round box
of 9mm that was missing 5-6 cartridges and an empty spare magazine.

The original magazine was in the pistol and contained the missing 9mm cartridges which had brass discoloration marks where the cartridges had touched  each other in storage for thirty years.

He purchased the pistol, loaded the magazine and never touched or fired it for over thirty years. Apparently he also never touched or fired any other weapon in that interval.

He wanted to sell it because his wife was afraid his grandchildren might find it in the closet and hurt themselves.

I never had a real chance to find out just what he had in mind when he purchased it or what background or experience he
had with firearms.

He seemed in all respects to be a completely normal individual. But the experience  definitely went into my 'encounters of the odd kind' file.

Best regards,

[Michael Bane]

In a moment of weakness, I once swapped a P-220 with the European magazine release for a NIB .40 High-Power Combat. I wish I had that 220 back. I'm never really sure what "better" means in the context we use it. Sig went to the milled slides on the 229 from the folded slides on the 228 because they needed a beefier slide to handle the .40 S&W and the .357 Sig. Is a beefier slide better or worse? Is stainless better or worse? I tend to see these things strictly in terms of how the change effects functioning. My current 226 runs exaclty like my first 226 back in the mid-1980s...with boring regularity. It shoots the same, handles the same and seems to me to be less prone to rust than my old 226, which had been beaten pretty badly. Better...worse...shrug...

I can't for the life of me figure out why people occasionally get so torqued up over some of this stuff. I do like for my guns to work all the time and not ave parts fly off into space, but there are lots of different ways to accomplish that goal. I've had various people explain to me in excruciatng detail why MIM, cast, forged, milled, alloy, polymer, etc. parts all suck or are all the greatest thing since sliced bread. In reality, it's all a question of appropriate technology. All parts fail under enough useage. The trick is to use the right technology in the right spot.

BTW, I'm anticipating swapping my German P-225 for a P-250 9mm, because I really liked the way the 250 shot.


Michael B

[hodman]

I can't for the life of me figure out why people occasionally get so torqued up over some of this stuff. I do like for my guns to work all the time and not ave parts fly off into space, but there are lots of different ways to accomplish that goal. I've had various people explain to me in excruciatng detail why MIM, cast, forged, milled, alloy, polymer, etc. parts all suck or are all the greatest thing since sliced bread. In reality, it's all a question of appropriate technology. All parts fail under enough useage. The trick is to use the right technology in the right spot.

BTW, I'm anticipating swapping my German P-225 for a P-250 9mm, because I really liked the way the 250 shot.


Michael B

Well said and in that light  I am going to go and sell my Landon 225 so i can buy a M&P 9mm to shoot in SSP

Jon

[texcaliber]

Well said and in that light  I am going to go and sell my Landon 225 so i can buy a M&P 9mm to shoot in SSP

Jon

This reminds me of a HomerSimpson quote:

"THATS CRAZY TALK MARGE, YOUR CRAZY"

 

[jaybet]

Hey if I could I'd shoot 1000 rounds a day, but I blow all my money on food, gas, mortgage...silly stuff like that.
I'm just a guy that likes to shoot with a wife that likes to shoot, and we shoot as much as we can afford.

Without a job in the industry, sponsorships, friends with extra ammo, etc., we get off about 700 to 1000 rounds a month average between us- and she only shoots revolvers. Not bad for folks that still have the third kid in college and a few bad habits to boot. We like our vices and I'm partial to the occasional stray electric guitar as well.

I guess I throw the most in 9mm with my Sig 2022. It was my first (and only so far) Sig and it's still very much favored on range day.