oath keepers

[VinBea]

What we have here, is one of them there "failures to communicate" situations going on here.

Yep, I'm prior military and been watching the usurpation by folks like HW Bush, Clinton, GW Bush, now the anointed full of baloney one, the past 20 years against the American people - and one thing I've learned is this: if it walks like a duck and quacks like one, pretty good odds it's a duck...

We've got politicians who know how to so work the system (manipulating folks from fear) that there's no longer no such thing as republican or democrat -- both working a Hegel Dialectic (using double-speak) using controlled chaos to get the herd (that's us folks) going in the direction those working for universal government want us going in the first place.

So insofar as I can tell, as bad as the UN is, and I believe it's a scourge, there'd not be a UN (at least not here in the US) if not for the GW Bushes, Hussein Obamas, and the US congress/senate keeping the thing alive going back since the UN was founded in 1948; going back even before that with the league of nations...

Alex Jones is dead on with what's transpiring in America today (can you say: communitarian/communism?) by design and on purpose - the mind really is a terrible thing to waste - Alan Stang over at newswithviews.com often writes about the hoodwinking going on between those we elect and those electing them (as does many of the writers over there Devvy Kidd, Dennis L Cuddy PhD's, Chuck Baldwin, etc), among anothers...Steven Quayle up in Montana comes to mind as well - there's a lot of good information out there if folks really want to get out of the whole democrat vs republican thing, that's just a snow-job that keeps us all divided down here where the tire meets the road while they amass our nation's wealth and freedoms into the hands of a few...

[VinBea]

Okay, that WAS FUNNY!


No, let them stay in NYC, charge them rent and then quit paying our dues...UN gone.

Oh, and soemone shows up to my house in a UN uniform with anything other than a warm hello, I will shoot them in the face and kill all their friends...they would be an invading army that I am sworn to fight just as much as any redcoat in Lexington or Concord. I don't like to say things like this on the webboard, but if Russians did it, Chinese, Mexicans, Canadians, British, French (Oh, wait not French )or anyone else that is not in a US uniform or US law enforcement, I will shoot them if they try to take anything of mine.


I can admonish folks to the best of my ability to stay and be informed by watching and/or listening to Alex Jones over at infowars.com - the guy's telling it like it is; and with what's coming to America, they don't just want your (our) guns and bullets, they want those of us who are for our Constitutional Republic handed to us by our founding fathers with the Bill of Rights, they want us DEAD - that's right folks DEAD - those working through our federal government at the higher levels where the GW Bushes and Hussein Obamas live don't just want what you think they want...ever heard of the phoenix bird? About making an example out of the US so as to get the rest of the western world aligned with the agenda?

Universal government is already here - what we see is the first signs of what can be likened to a category 10 hurricane that's got the US in its cross hairs; what we see now is the implementation of what they'd been planning all along...

Alex Jones isn't enough; there's also most all the writers over at newswithviews.com who's trying to get we the American people educated before some new 911 event gets used toward emotionally steering the herd (again, that's us folks - we're the feeders/eaters/consumers the international global government operating through our elected politicians are considering us as being) in the direction they want us going in...

[Thanos]

Careful partner.  You are crossing some dangerous lines.

And what line am I crossing? I don't accept the UN as a legitimate entity that can dictate anything to me. I never voted for any of them, I don't believe in most of their policies and I don't like their agenda or main goals. Anyone who comes and tries to supplant the Constitution of the United States of America with anything else is an enemy to the United States and me.

The UN has no problem with putting their agenda above all others and supressing the legitimate governmental powers that are going to be better for the people if they are not aligned witht he UN agenda. Note they didn't have a problem with Russia invading Georgia?

So if the show up at my door on UN business with anything other than a free box of girlscout cookies, they are my enemy and an enemy to my country. Just as much as if it was a neonazi group, KKK group, black panther group...

Anyone outside the elected officials of the United States trying to force their egenda down my throat willl get bit.

[long762range]

"I will shoot them if they try to take anything of mine."

This is the dangerous line you have crossed.  There are not foreign troops occupying the United States.  There are only American troops here.

When you warn that you will kill to protect what is yours from government seizure you put youself in a dangerous mindset.  A killing mindset.  Where is the stopping point when you declare your willingness to kill?  Is the deputy sheriff who comes to investigate a neighbors complaint a legitimate target?  Are National Guard helocopters flying over your property a part of the global world conspiracy? 

I have also sworn an oath to protect my country from all enemies both foreign and domestic but I will not allow people like Alex Jones tell me who those enemies are. 

[2HOW]

What about about the Marines who served as Gendarmerie in Haiti, Nicaragagua, and other Central American countries during the 20's and 30's they were serving as POLICE.
What about Korea, MacArthur was UN Commander.
What about The Black troops in WWI who served in FRENCH Divisions.
Why don't you learn the subject before you go telling others they are full of crap.

The U.N . was put into existance after WW2 in 1945  (stay on topic) . All American soldiers who served in other countries served under U.S. authority either as security for our people or covert operations who reported to the DOD or CIA.

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[tombogan03884]

The U.N . was put into existance after WW2 in 1945  (stay on topic) . All American soldiers who served in other countries served under U.S. authority either as security for our people or covert operations who reported to the DOD or CIA.

Exactly my point. The history of US troops serving under foreign command predates the UN.
http://www.archives.gov/education/lessons/369th-infantry/
The 369th Infantry helped to repel the German offensive and to launch a counteroffensive. General John J. Pershing assigned the 369th to the 16th Division ofthe French Army. With the French, the Harlem Hellfighters fought at Chateau-Thierry and Belleau Wood. All told they spent 191 days in combat, longer than any other American unit in the war. "My men never retire, they go forward or they die," said Colonel Hayward. Indeed, the 369th was the first Allied unit to reach the Rhine.
http://www.dmna.state.ny.us/historic/reghist/wwi/infantry/369thInf/369thInfMain.htm
The recruitment took place in Harlem, New York.
The battalion trained at Camp Whitman (Poughkeepsie, N.Y.); guard duty in New York City; in further training in South Carolina; shipped overseas 27 December 1917; regimental band toured France; served within the French army in General Henri Gouraud’s 4th Army; in the 16th French Division.

[Thanos]

"I will shoot them if they try to take anything of mine."
This is the dangerous line you have crossed.  There are not foreign troops occupying the United States.  There are only American troops here.
When you warn that you will kill to protect what is yours from government seizure you put youself in a dangerous mindset.  A killing mindset.  Where is the stopping point when you declare your willingness to kill?  Is the deputy sheriff who comes to investigate a neighbors complaint a legitimate target?  Are National Guard helocopters flying over your property a part of the global world conspiracy? 
I have also sworn an oath to protect my country from all enemies both foreign and domestic but I will not allow people like Alex Jones tell me who those enemies are. 

Any unelected/unappointed power in the United States of America or that is under a jurisdiction NOT answering to the chain of command that has at its head either the President of the United States or the Governer of a State is not someone I have to obey and I can morally fight.
i think that makes everything pretty clear. Any other questions?

I don't know who Alex Jones is.

[long762range]

Any unelected/unappointed power in the United States of America or that is under a jurisdiction NOT answering to the chain of command that has at its head either the President of the United States or the Governer of a State is not someone I have to obey and I can morally fight.
i think that makes everything pretty clear. Any other questions?

I don't know who Alex Jones is.

You set up a straw dog.  Who are these people?  They do not exist.

You are preparing yourself up to become a murderer.  Is that what you want?

[VinBea]

I'll do my best to try and keep things simple; http://www.infowars.com/ is a link that allows you to listen online (I usually use winamps) regarding Alex Jones pulling off the layers of international global bankers working through our electoral processes to put their front men/women/people in; the end result being the usurpation of our liberties and freedoms over several years by the continuum of the whole democrat republican dialectic that creates all the divisions down on the street where it is we all have to live and raise our families while they up where the Bushes and the Obamas of the scam embelish themselves with even more power and wealth...

http://newswithviews.com/ is a link to such writers of this process such as Alan Stang, Devvy Kidd, Dennis Cuddy...

The crux for me being that the same individuals that's going after your guns, along with those 2nd amendment rights - are the same ones who really don't want your guns; rather, want you and me DEAD - after we're dead (those who are for the Constitutional Republic with its Constitution and Bill of Rights) they'll have the guns and who ever remains will be slaves to the state just as happens in very country where the masses are being manipulated via their emotions over facts...we're divided in America which is bad for us but good for those living among the Bushes and Obamas of America -- all our divisions empowers them; our unity around our Constitutional Republic as the common denominator forces THEM to flee for their very lives - because with a Constitutional Republic comes accountability (and one thing the Bushes and the Obamas of America do not want is, being held accountable...

[long762range]

Alex Jones lives right here in Austin.  I do not believe him.  He is a kook.

I do not know Alan Stang, Devvy Kidd, Dennis Cuddy.  Why should I believe them?

Are they scholars, degreed historians, soldiers, working men or conspiracy theorists?

Insults about keeping things simple do not help you win your points.