DLA to destroy once fired brass before selling as scrap

[Bidah]

Here is the email concerning the DLA now having to destroy military once fired brass so it cannot be reloaded.  This is just going to make it hurt that much more...  We had better make some collective NOISE on this one.

From:

SurplusNews@govliquidation.com

SurplusNews@govliquidation.com
Sent: Thursday, March 12, 2009 5:34 PM
To: xxxxxx
Subject: Important Notice to Scrap Metal Buyers!

http://www.govliquidation.com

Dear Valued Customer:

Please take a moment to note important changes set forth by the Defense Logistics Agency:

Recently it has been determined that fired munitions of all calibers, shapes and sizes have been designated to be Demil code B. As a result and in conjunction with DLA's current Demil code B policy, this notice will serve as official notification which requires Scrap Venture (SV) to implement mutilation as a condition of sale for all sales of fired munitions effective immediately. This notice also requires SV to immediately cease delivery of any fired munitions that have been recently sold or on active term contracts, unless the material has been mutilated prior to sale or SV personnel can attest to the mutilation after delivery. A certificate of destruction is required in either case.

Thank you,

DOD Surplus
15051 N Kierland Blvd # 300
Scottsdale, AZ 85254

-Bidah

[m25operator]

THAT BITES

Another sign?

[Stephen A. Camp]

Hello.  Below is the text of an email I just sent an informal group I keep updated on Second Amendment issues:

"Federal Directive to Destroy Fired Military Cases in .223 & .308

Here is the link:  http://www.jpfo.org/alerts03/alert20090313.htm

Here is one immediate result: http://www.georgia-arms.com/

Georgia-Arms is a major supplier of reloaded ammunition.

Here is a link to make contacting elected representatives.

http://www.usa.gov/Contact/Elected.shtml

I figured that the sob’s would try and hit ammo first since the Heller decision sort of slowed some of their efforts there.  Here we are in an economic crisis and the military, which is supported by the taxpayers has to deplete the value of fired cases by 80%.  Doesn’t make a lick of sense unless the primary aim is to reduce ammunition available to the honest American citizen for either private reloading or reloading companies.

I sort of doubt that Bin Laden has an account with RCBS.

We are certainly some of the end-users of these cases and thus, the end targets of this change of policy.

Obama and his socialists can keep this ill-thought, wasteful “change”.

It is simply "back door gun control".

Stephen A. Camp

Best.

[Pathfinder]

This was posted on the 6.8 Forum today:

Here is a new angle from the left...

Another serious problem has just been created to add to the critical ammo shortage in the U.S. Read my letter to Senator Max Baucus about this below. An agency of the Department of Defense has just directed that all military fired brass must be destroyed.

I highly recommend that you send emails to U.S. Senators Baucus and Tester, and to Montana's lone Congressman Rehberg, asking them to get immediately onto fixing this.

FYI, Baucus is Chairman of the powerful Senate Finance Committee. He could simply call the Pentagon and tell them that if they don't reverse this DLA directive that the Pentagon will suffer a mysterious budget cut of several billion dollars. Also, Baucus's former Chief of Staff, Jim Messina, is now Deputy Chief of Staff at the White House. If Max called Jim and asked, Jim could fix this problem with a phone call too.

I recommend you communicate with the Baucus, Tester and Rehberg staffers who are tasked to firearms issues. They are:

Baucus - "Heather O'Loughlin" <heather_o'loughlin@baucus.senate.gov>

Tester - "Lillstrom, Alpha" <Alpha_Lillstrom@tester.senate.gov>

Rehberg - "Abra Belke" <abra.belke@mail.house.gov>

Tell them we simply don't accept the military destroying perfectly good brass that could be sold into the civilian market for private and commercial reloading.

Gary Marbut, president
Montana Shooting Sports Association
http://www.mtssa.org
author, Gun Laws of Montana
http://www.mtpublish.com

[MinotBob]

Hello. Below is the text of an email I just sent an informal group I keep updated on Second Amendment issues:

"Federal Directive to Destroy Fired Military Cases in .223 & .308

Here is the link: http://www.jpfo.org/alerts03/alert20090313.htm

Here is one immediate result: http://www.georgia-arms.com/

Georgia-Arms is a major supplier of reloaded ammunition.

Here is a link to make contacting elected representatives.

http://www.usa.gov/Contact/Elected.shtml

I figured that the sob’s would try and hit ammo first since the Heller decision sort of slowed some of their efforts there. Here we are in an economic crisis and the military, which is supported by the taxpayers has to deplete the value of fired cases by 80%. Doesn’t make a lick of sense unless the primary aim is to reduce ammunition available to the honest American citizen for either private reloading or reloading companies.

I sort of doubt that Bin Laden has an account with RCBS.

We are certainly some of the end-users of these cases and thus, the end targets of this change of policy.

Obama and his socialists can keep this ill-thought, wasteful “change”.

It is simply "back door gun control".

[Sponsor]

[Stephen A. Camp]

Hello.  Closer scrutiny shows that this is not an executive order from THE ONE.  It is a policy implemented to destroy brass intended to be sold only as scrap.  There is a provision in it that says brass from 50-caliber down can still be sold in the US.  The scary thing to me is that there's nothing that says policy cannot be expanded to include all military brass for the scrap pile.  For this reason, I suggest that we contact our elected representatives and express concerns.

I am not sure that some of these initially-seem-worse-than-they-are-when-you-scratch-the-surface items are being put out to gauge the reaction that might be expected.

Best to all.

[rojawe]

http://www.georgia-arms.com/

Our Government at work

[1776 Rebel]

This post on the blog THE SHOOTIST explains what the heck is going on with the recent DOD order. Basically we're screwed. Georgia Arms exec was interviewed on Tom Gresham this afternoon and stated that the ammo market is going to see an IMMEDIATE impact. Like in weeks...prices going to skyrocket and availability will go right into the crapper. DOD contracts will be cancelled as of tomorrow (Monday 3/16).

http://www.theshootist.net/2009/03/dod-ends-sale-of-expended-military.html

[tombogan03884]

The other thread on this had info that it was only stuff bigger than .50 cal.

[1776 Rebel]

Tom, the following is the letter sent to Georgia Arms. Note that I underlined several relevant sections....


From THE SHOOTIST:

Here are copies of two letters sent to Georgia Arms just Thursday evening--effectively cancelling a contract he had to purchase 30,000 pounds of expended military brass in .223, 7.62mm, and .50 caliber:


Dear Valued Customer:

Please take a moment to note important changes set forth by the Defense Logistics Agency:

Recently it has been determined that fired munitions of all calibers, shapes and sizes have been designated to be Demil code B. As a result and in conjunction with DLA's current Demil code B policy, this notice will serve as official notification which requires Scrap Venture (SV) to implement mutilation as a condition of sale for all sales of fired munitions effective immediately. This notice also requires SV to immediately cease delivery of any fired munitions that have been recently sold or on active term contracts, unless the material has been mutilated prior to sale or SV personnel can attest to the mutilation after delivery. A certificate of destruction is required in either case.

Thank you,

DOD Surplus
15051 N Kierland Blvd # 300
Scottsdale, AZ 85254